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Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-08 11:31:22
June 08 2007 11:23 GMT
#1
Ok, I like the mediocre music of broodwar, I mean the terran track and some of the protoss track is good, but I think they should change the songs and sounds a little bit (music). I was hoping they would choose a diffrent composer other then tracy bush or glenn stafford, I am talking composer like Jeremy soule, he made the music for morrowind, and I think won a British academy award for it. He also composed music like for Oblivion, company of heroes etc. http://www.jeremysoule.com/index2.html his site with the music, and I believe he is very well known.

Thats one person, I generally think we should have more experienced composers make music for Sc2 if we want the game to have the epic feeling, thats just my opinion. The music composers that did the songs for warcraft and some of the songs for starcraft were npt really that well known, or as well experienced.
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HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
June 08 2007 11:40 GMT
#2
why dont you post that on blizz forums?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 08 2007 11:42 GMT
#3
What?

The music for WarCraft, WarCraft II and the Terran music for SC is absolutely outstanding. Especially War II is one of the best game musics like... ever.

So, more respect please.

-Mynock
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
June 08 2007 11:49 GMT
#4
Bliz has a lot of new music talent and I would say in the 10 years since SC was in production they have definitely stepped up the production value on their game scores. I mean you could argue they have some of the best shit right now as far as orchestral/background game music goes.

I honestly would like to hear shit as crazy as possible. SC and BW have really interesting scores, very recognizable. It would be too easy to just have the typical overdone sci-fi score stuff like in the trailers. I have no doubts that is the kind of music it will have but there is a reason why when I play a game like Street Fighter 2 I still love the music, 15+ years later. SC similarly has memorable tunage, whereas I cant think of a single piece of music in WC3 or WoW or Diablo(Except the intro music) or anything Soule has done.

And imo Jeremy Soule is fine and all but honestly dude aint very interesting or dynamic, he just writes ok "samey" type of stuff. IWD was prob his best work to me, and people really need to get over using "epic" to describe every fucking thing under the sun lately.
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CowGoMoo
Profile Joined December 2006
United States428 Posts
June 08 2007 11:59 GMT
#5
IMO Flank Klepacki's music would be ideal, but he works for Petroglyph so I don't see it happening =(

I am sure the SC2 music will be good, maybe not great, but most people probably listen to their own music anyways so who really cares?
Duffybeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China183 Posts
June 08 2007 12:02 GMT
#6
On June 08 2007 20:49 red.venom wrote:
Bliz has a lot of new music talent and I would say in the 10 years since SC was in production they have definitely stepped up the production value on their game scores. I mean you could argue they have some of the best shit right now as far as orchestral/background game music goes.

I honestly would like to hear shit as crazy as possible. SC and BW have really interesting scores, very recognizable. It would be too easy to just have the typical overdone sci-fi score stuff like in the trailers. I have no doubts that is the kind of music it will have but there is a reason why when I play a game like Street Fighter 2 I still love the music, 15+ years later. SC similarly has memorable tunage, whereas I cant think of a single piece of music in WC3 or WoW or Diablo(Except the intro music) or anything Soule has done.

And imo Jeremy Soule is fine and all but honestly dude aint very interesting or dynamic, he just writes ok "samey" type of stuff. IWD was prob his best work to me, and people really need to get over using "epic" to describe every fucking thing under the sun lately.


Apparently the music for war3 wasn't really what you described and it was worse them "samey".
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
June 08 2007 12:12 GMT
#7
The atmospheric music is really only for games like Diablo and WoW. Games where you're exploring a world from the point of view of one character need a musical score that doesn't overpower the gameplay.

By contrast, games like War2, SC, War3 need more dramatic and intense music, which they have. Personally I prefer this sort of music better than the orchestral stuff. War3 most definitely has some memorable music, especially the Human theme. I expect SC2 to have music on par or surpassing the spirit and style of SC.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 08 2007 12:27 GMT
#8
war2, total annihilation and the original C&C had the best game music ever.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 08 2007 13:48 GMT
#9
um yeah I think you are alone here in thinking that the music for starcraft wasnt pure excellence

i think there are way more people who want more of the awesome music from those 3 artists than people who dont want it

I love the music so much that I got and started learning how to use mixing software to mix the original themes
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-08 14:28:09
June 08 2007 14:27 GMT
#10
I dunno if I really want SC2 to have generic orchestral music like every other game these days, but it probably will. I just don't think that kind of music really suits the SC universe that well.
Oak
Profile Joined June 2007
South Africa114 Posts
June 08 2007 17:07 GMT
#11
Personally, I found Starcraft's music to be fantastic. Especially, and having read some other opinions I seem to be the only one, the Zerg music. In terms of ambience, theme and general energy it is some of the best music for a strategy game, bar none.

I hope that Blizzard reproduce the excellence they have shown in the music of Diablo, Starcraft, Diablo II and Warcraft 3 for Starcraft II. Music I find is such an integral part of the game experience. Do it right, and it adds so much to the game, do it wrong, and it can seriously detract from a game that might be excellent otherwise.

BTW, am I alone in thinking that the music in the original Diablo is simply some of the best game music ever conceived? Especially for the type of game it is.
Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
June 08 2007 17:16 GMT
#12
The Terran music = the best ever x_o;
The Zerg music = perfectly fits with the zerg style. A bit creepy. Second best ever!
The Protoss music = .....rather boring...
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 08 2007 17:34 GMT
#13
the protoss music is a bit boring i'd agree w/ that, it needs to be more lively and exciting like the terran one. it's not that bad though

the terran is definitely the best though yeah and zerg also very good, perfect for zerg, and when it gets to the more dramatic portions..that's my favorite part
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
June 08 2007 17:46 GMT
#14
Jeremy Soule sucks ass, every soundtrack for every game he ever worked for was absolutely identical, same stayle, same lack of imagination, same "epic" music. Boring as hell. Hope if they change the soundtrack composer for SC2, they pick anyone but him.
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Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
June 08 2007 17:46 GMT
#15
That's exactly what I love about the Zerg music. When it goes into the "strong" stage.
-Sleet-
Profile Joined September 2006
Poland84 Posts
June 08 2007 17:49 GMT
#16
Hans Zimmer plz^^
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 08 2007 17:55 GMT
#17
First of all, Jeremy Soule's best work was indeed Icewind Dale. He's just made for that kind of games, and, well, StarCraft is probably the farthest thing from a DnD atmosphere-based RPG IWD was. So, no Jeremy Soule please. I really love his music, as well as Matt Uelmen's (Tristram theme from Diablo still has my bet as the best sound track made in computer games), but they focus on different games and different kind of music.

As for StarCraft, it's music is wondrous. It's not precisely dramatic or mind-blowing, but it pleases the ear and you never get bored with it. That's the best qualitative measure of a soundtrack when you're up to play 1000+ hours of something. While some changes (new themes, abit more dynamic, probably, but only abit) are welcome, music is something that SC had close to perfect, so approach this with care.

Warcraft III's soundtrack, on the contrary, was pretty mediocre. Imo, some of the tracks were too ambient. A striking theme is something an RTS sountrack shouldn't aim for, but Warcraft III Orc tracks seemed to lack any theme at all. TFT had better music (ahh, the NE theme for TFT was in fact really cool), but still, War III with it's addon scores lower than BW in terms of music for my liking.

And please no heroic themes. FFS please. StarCraft is a sci-fi cruel world with treachery, deceit and lack of morals behind every corner, with good and evil undefined. We really don't need Independence Day-like cheap heroical music themes here, really, it will ruin the atmoshpere. This comes from hearing the music in the trailers and on Blizzard's site. I don't need anything epic, just give me my shuttle and reaver and some rock'n'roll in the earphones.
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stim[mic]
Profile Joined November 2006
Australia93 Posts
June 08 2007 18:16 GMT
#18
On June 09 2007 02:49 -Sleet- wrote:
Hans Zimmer plz^^
YES HANS ZIMMER FIGHTING!!
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
June 08 2007 19:52 GMT
#19
Game music is just awesome.
It can make up for bad gameplay really.
I don't care too much for graphics since I don't like modern all 3d games, I'm more a oldscholl draw graphics or izometric(pre-rendered is ok, but drawn owns).

War2 music was awesome I remember I had those midi's and an old AWE64 card with it's awesome midi synthesis...
Made all those all midi music in all those old games(War2, Heroes2, Bermuda Syndrome, Tyrian...) like 300% better.
Too bad it was only isa, but still I have it stored in old pc as a reminder.

...
Diablo 2 music rox especially in act 5 those 3-4 orchestral songs are just art.
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
June 08 2007 20:42 GMT
#20
Can't say I really enjoyed the 'epic orchestral' thing they did near the end of the gameplay video. It just sounded so out of place and of course it was obviously meant to accentuate the scale of the final battle thing they had going on, it just sounded kind of gay. A bit like the dramatic pieces in Requiem for a Dream maybe :>

I'll cry if we lose the zerg guitar!
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