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IEM World Championship Katowice 2019 Announced - Page 3

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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
November 30 2018 09:23 GMT
#41
On November 30 2018 18:16 deacon.frost wrote:
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On November 29 2018 16:03 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Punish them Rogue
Punish them all

No GSL and no JAGW announcement yet. I'd be very careful
No need to be. Rogue would attend even if JAG disbands. Which seems unlikely given their success.
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-30 09:59:10
November 30 2018 09:58 GMT
#42
On November 29 2018 17:45 Corvuuss wrote:
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On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


There was katowice last year as well?

Katowice 2018 was the final event of their 2017 season (XII). This is the final event of XIII, but IEM XIII had zero SC2 event in any stop.
On November 29 2018 16:54 lechatnoir wrote:
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On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


Wasn't that Olympia thing inKorea that Scarlett won done by IEM? Sure, not part of the season but they organized it?

That was also part of season XII, before Katowice 2018.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7200 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-30 10:59:08
November 30 2018 10:58 GMT
#43
On November 30 2018 04:20 Kalera wrote:
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On November 29 2018 20:04 Harris1st wrote:
On November 29 2018 04:38 blunderfulguy wrote:
On November 29 2018 04:25 Elentos wrote:
On November 29 2018 04:21 blunderfulguy wrote:
I cannot wait to see how 2019 starts. Looking forward to it.

*Still split on Serral's invites. Is he going to be invited and seeded into everything this year? That'll get old for me fast.

Rogue was invited to Katowice last year too, so it's consistent.

And let's be honest, unless Serral drops off massively, he would qualify for everything this year anyway.

For me it isn't about whether or not he would qualify nor about Rogue being invited to Katowice last year, it feels Serral's invites have become "trendy" by the end of this year going into next year. If it starts to happen constantly, I'll get sick of it which, who cares, but I also think there's something to be said about the competition and storylines that happen from tough qualifiers and that taking strong players out of every qualifier could be worse for the competition as a whole. Imo, removing challenges (tough players) for other players gives them fewer things to overcome, fewer opportunities to learn and get better. I also think it's a shame to remove the opportunity for an (unlikely, sure) upset to happen in the qualifiers even if the tournament organizers and a lot of viewers would be disappointed if it happened.

I'm not saying it's false that the qualifiers could be more competitive when such a dominant player is removed from them and more room is made for other players, but I think it's bad to do constantly for a lot of reasons and I worry that it's going to become a constant thing.


Well, he is the end boss. You have to play through the game to get to the end boss. He is not in the first level. Imagine your lvl 5 Warrior has to face Diablo after 5 mins into the game with his scrappy white items and maybe one blue...


Eh, are players like Maru, Stats, or TY not big bosses also? It's also not like you somehow 'level up' while playing a tournament, your skill at the start is about the same as at the end. It seems like you're supporting a setup like Chess with a Candidates tournament and a separate championship match. That system has its merits, but in a game like SC2, I think it's more impressive for a 'champion' to show their merit by being able to slog through the brackets like everyone else, because there's always the chance of being tripped up by something unexpected.

I don't minds invites too much, but I prefer players starting on an equal playing field for each tournament.


I am speechless right now. How can you take my post this serious? lol

On the point of someone tripping, yes sure, but with GSL format or double elim brackets this doesn't change the fact that even when upsets happen, the favorite will still pull through in most cases


Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
ProBell
Profile Joined May 2012
Thailand145 Posts
November 30 2018 13:37 GMT
#44
Being SC2 fan for 8 years and counting, I think some tournaments should give players more $$ especially top 5 (some first places only got about $10k in 2017 and 2018) And tone down some tournaments that have WAY over $100k for first place.

I mean this idea/opinion is only from a fan's point of view, I know they are diff companies and stuff but I'd rather see really big prize pools go into more tournaments small/mid sized ones than 1-2 HUGE ones a year.

That way more $$ for more pros and SC2 will never ever die. We aren't as big as FortNite and we dont care. Our game is much more competitive and have more respectable players and fans.
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
November 30 2018 13:46 GMT
#45
On November 30 2018 18:58 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2018 17:45 Corvuuss wrote:
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


There was katowice last year as well?

Katowice 2018 was the final event of their 2017 season (XII). This is the final event of XIII, but IEM XIII had zero SC2 event in any stop.
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2018 16:54 lechatnoir wrote:
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


Wasn't that Olympia thing inKorea that Scarlett won done by IEM? Sure, not part of the season but they organized it?
That was also part of season XII, before Katowice 2018.
Since there was no IEM circuit in 2018, I think of Katowice as the only IEM event during 2018. Which itself is part of the WCS circuit. Which makes Katowice 2018 a WCS 2018 event...
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
November 30 2018 14:13 GMT
#46
Wow awesome news. I didnt think itd be coming back tbh.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-30 16:41:21
November 30 2018 16:39 GMT
#47
On November 30 2018 22:46 Jj_82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2018 18:58 digmouse wrote:
On November 29 2018 17:45 Corvuuss wrote:
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


There was katowice last year as well?

Katowice 2018 was the final event of their 2017 season (XII). This is the final event of XIII, but IEM XIII had zero SC2 event in any stop.
On November 29 2018 16:54 lechatnoir wrote:
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote:
It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season.


Wasn't that Olympia thing inKorea that Scarlett won done by IEM? Sure, not part of the season but they organized it?
That was also part of season XII, before Katowice 2018.
Since there was no IEM circuit in 2018, I think of Katowice as the only IEM event during 2018. Which itself is part of the WCS circuit. Which makes Katowice 2018 a WCS 2018 event...

IEM XIII had events in Sydney, Shanghai and Chicago, all of them CSGO though. Although Katowice hasn't been a real "World Championship" event for a while as previous stops don't always seed into it so it ultimately doesn't matter
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
December 01 2018 09:40 GMT
#48
On November 30 2018 17:45 Jj_82 wrote:
Yay for SC2 returning to Katowice!!!!
Little note: "Premium tickets [...] premium seating." That's only true for the semifinals and final, right?

The auditorium used for days 1 and 2 usually has the first three rows reserved for premium tickets.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-01 09:57:33
December 01 2018 09:57 GMT
#49
WESG and IEM they have the same month and days...
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 01 2018 10:35 GMT
#50
On December 01 2018 18:57 dummy1 wrote:
WESG and IEM they have the same month and days...

Don't think WESG has announced their date yet, probably will avoid the conflict.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
December 01 2018 11:59 GMT
#51
On December 01 2018 19:35 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2018 18:57 dummy1 wrote:
WESG and IEM they have the same month and days...

Don't think WESG has announced their date yet, probably will avoid the conflict.

I thought that WESG is a much bigger thing and don't really care about other things, since WESG will feature many games. Is it likely that WESG will take IEM into consideration? There are a few games that will be played in both, but IEM isn't as big as WESG.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
December 01 2018 12:34 GMT
#52
On December 01 2018 20:59 Drfilip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2018 19:35 digmouse wrote:
On December 01 2018 18:57 dummy1 wrote:
WESG and IEM they have the same month and days...

Don't think WESG has announced their date yet, probably will avoid the conflict.

I thought that WESG is a much bigger thing and don't really care about other things, since WESG will feature many games. Is it likely that WESG will take IEM into consideration? There are a few games that will be played in both, but IEM isn't as big as WESG.

Katowice is hosting the csgo major as well (which is the biggest event on the CS calendar), as well as the sc2 world championship. there's no way WeSG would host an event at the same time
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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