EPTFrom February 25 through to March 3
Winner gets a direct seed to the WCS Global Finals
Both the semi-finals and the Grand Finals will take place on March 3 on the Spodek Arena's main stage.
Source
IEM World Championship Katowice 2019 Announced
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Kashim
Poland1218 Posts
From February 25 through to March 3 Winner gets a direct seed to the WCS Global Finals Both the semi-finals and the Grand Finals will take place on March 3 on the Spodek Arena's main stage. Source
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Elentos
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Kashim
Poland1218 Posts
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blunderfulguy
United States1415 Posts
*Still split on Serral's invites. Is he going to be invited and seeded into everything this year? That'll get old for me fast. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:21 blunderfulguy wrote: I cannot wait to see how 2019 starts. Looking forward to it. *Still split on Serral's invites. Is he going to be invited and seeded into everything this year? That'll get old for me fast. Rogue was invited to Katowice last year too, so it's consistent. And let's be honest, unless Serral drops off massively, he would qualify for everything this year anyway. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Seems like everything is the same as last time. | ||
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NinjaNight
428 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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blunderfulguy
United States1415 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:25 Elentos wrote: Rogue was invited to Katowice last year too, so it's consistent. And let's be honest, unless Serral drops off massively, he would qualify for everything this year anyway. For me it isn't about whether or not he would qualify nor about Rogue being invited to Katowice last year, it feels Serral's invites have become "trendy" by the end of this year going into next year. If it starts to happen constantly, I'll get sick of it which, who cares, but I also think there's something to be said about the competition and storylines that happen from tough qualifiers and that taking strong players out of every qualifier could be worse for the competition as a whole. Imo, removing challenges (tough players) for other players gives them fewer things to overcome, fewer opportunities to learn and get better. I also think it's a shame to remove the opportunity for an (unlikely, sure) upset to happen in the qualifiers even if the tournament organizers and a lot of viewers would be disappointed if it happened. I'm not saying it's false that the qualifiers could be more competitive when such a dominant player is removed from them and more room is made for other players, but I think it's bad to do constantly for a lot of reasons and I worry that it's going to become a constant thing. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17259 Posts
may god bless | ||
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lechatnoir
392 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:38 blunderfulguy wrote: For me it isn't about whether or not he would qualify nor about Rogue being invited to Katowice last year, it feels Serral's invites have become "trendy" by the end of this year going into next year. If it starts to happen constantly, I'll get sick of it which, who cares, but I also think there's something to be said about the competition and storylines that happen from tough qualifiers and that taking strong players out of every qualifier could be worse for the competition as a whole. Imo, removing challenges (tough players) for other players gives them fewer things to overcome, fewer opportunities to learn and get better. I also think it's a shame to remove the opportunity for an (unlikely, sure) upset to happen in the qualifiers even if the tournament organizers and a lot of viewers would be disappointed if it happened. I'm not saying it's false that the qualifiers could be more competitive when such a dominant player is removed from them and more room is made for other players, but I think it's bad to do constantly for a lot of reasons and I worry that it's going to become a constant thing. Pretty sure he still has to qualify for all the WCS circuit events through challenger or show up for the open bracket, he still would have to qualify for any GSL event maybe there is a 2nd IEM event he gets invited to then the rest are stuff like nation wars and Homestory cup and ofc Blizzcon where you have to qualify. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33553 Posts
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pieroog
Poland146 Posts
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
Scene when the terran from JA wins it.  | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Still a bit disapointed Serral is invited but it's not a big deal. | ||
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:38 blunderfulguy wrote: For me it isn't about whether or not he would qualify nor about Rogue being invited to Katowice last year, it feels Serral's invites have become "trendy" by the end of this year going into next year. If it starts to happen constantly, I'll get sick of it which, who cares, but I also think there's something to be said about the competition and storylines that happen from tough qualifiers and that taking strong players out of every qualifier could be worse for the competition as a whole. Imo, removing challenges (tough players) for other players gives them fewer things to overcome, fewer opportunities to learn and get better. I also think it's a shame to remove the opportunity for an (unlikely, sure) upset to happen in the qualifiers even if the tournament organizers and a lot of viewers would be disappointed if it happened. I'm not saying it's false that the qualifiers could be more competitive when such a dominant player is removed from them and more room is made for other players, but I think it's bad to do constantly for a lot of reasons and I worry that it's going to become a constant thing. He was invited to what? WESG and HSC? very trendy.... It's insane to gloss over how IEM always invites the World Champion. | ||
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archonOOid
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On November 29 2018 07:59 archonOOid wrote: Who are apart of the IEM sc2 on-screen crew besides Apollo? Tastosis flying in? Unless a miracle happen Apollo won't be casting, he is behind the scene now. Usually Tastosis is there, Rotterdam will also 100% be there, and then for the rest in depend but it will probably be 3 other from the usual suspect : Pig-Maynarde-Tod-Incontrol-Nate-ZG... with maybe Kaelaris as host. | ||
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darhumewin
United States16 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On November 29 2018 07:59 archonOOid wrote: Who are apart of the IEM sc2 on-screen crew besides Apollo? Tastosis flying in? Pretty much expect the Blizzcon line up | ||
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Hillshtify
14 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:21 blunderfulguy wrote: I cannot wait to see how 2019 starts. Looking forward to it. *Still split on Serral's invites. Is he going to be invited and seeded into everything this year? That'll get old for me fast. He's on fire right now, he's good for the sport, and if you are inviting anyone to your tourney, it's him. The first ever foreigner to crush the whole scene in the history of the sport and you're bored with it already? What, i suppose you want more korean dominance...that'll get old for me fast. Lol, i can't help but call you an irritable moron. | ||
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blunderfulguy
United States1415 Posts
On November 29 2018 10:28 Hillshtify wrote: He's on fire right now, he's good for the sport, and if you are inviting anyone to your tourney, it's him. The first ever foreigner to crush the whole scene in the history of the sport and you're bored with it already? What, i suppose you want more korean dominance...that'll get old for me fast. Lol, i can't help but call you an irritable moron. Right, sure, call me a moron and point to straw men instead of have a discussion about it. Way to go. /s | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
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EEk1TwEEk
Russian Federation188 Posts
Punish them all | ||
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lechatnoir
392 Posts
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote: It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season. Wasn't that Olympia thing inKorea that Scarlett won done by IEM? Sure, not part of the season but they organized it? | ||
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Corvuuss
Austria354 Posts
On November 29 2018 12:21 digmouse wrote: It feels a bit weird because IEM had zero SC2 events in their 2018 season. There was katowice last year as well? | ||
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maicrag
1 Post
On November 29 2018 11:57 blunderfulguy wrote: Right, sure, call me a moron and point to straw men instead of have a discussion about it. Way to go. /s You could start providing a link with your complain when Rogue (Blizzcon champ 2017) was invited to IEM World Championship Katowice 2018, in case there is something objective to complain about all this.For me is completely reasonable to assure the presence of Blizzcon champ to hype the tournament. If you can't provide this link, and your complain is only about your feelings about Serral, you are evidently a moron. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
CynicalDeath
Italy3565 Posts
 IEM Season XIII - KatowiceLiquipedia body is ready | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:25 Elentos wrote: Rogue was invited to Katowice last year too, so it's consistent. And let's be honest, unless Serral drops off massively, he would qualify for everything this year anyway. Really it just means europe will get an extra qualifying slot into the ro24, assuming same format as last year. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7072 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:38 blunderfulguy wrote: For me it isn't about whether or not he would qualify nor about Rogue being invited to Katowice last year, it feels Serral's invites have become "trendy" by the end of this year going into next year. If it starts to happen constantly, I'll get sick of it which, who cares, but I also think there's something to be said about the competition and storylines that happen from tough qualifiers and that taking strong players out of every qualifier could be worse for the competition as a whole. Imo, removing challenges (tough players) for other players gives them fewer things to overcome, fewer opportunities to learn and get better. I also think it's a shame to remove the opportunity for an (unlikely, sure) upset to happen in the qualifiers even if the tournament organizers and a lot of viewers would be disappointed if it happened. I'm not saying it's false that the qualifiers could be more competitive when such a dominant player is removed from them and more room is made for other players, but I think it's bad to do constantly for a lot of reasons and I worry that it's going to become a constant thing. Well, he is the end boss. You have to play through the game to get to the end boss. He is not in the first level. Imagine your lvl 5 Warrior has to face Diablo after 5 mins into the game with his scrappy white items and maybe one blue... | ||
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Zreg
9 Posts
From February 25 through to March 3 Serral will get a direct seed to the WCS Global Finals Both the semi-finals and the Grand Finals will take place on March 3 on the Spodek Arena's main stage. Thank you j/k Grerat to see it all get going again! | ||
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
On November 29 2018 20:04 Harris1st wrote: Well, he is the end boss. You have to play through the game to get to the end boss. He is not in the first level. Imagine your lvl 5 Warrior has to face Diablo after 5 mins into the game with his scrappy white items and maybe one blue... Eh, are players like Maru, Stats, or TY not big bosses also? It's also not like you somehow 'level up' while playing a tournament, your skill at the start is about the same as at the end. It seems like you're supporting a setup like Chess with a Candidates tournament and a separate championship match. That system has its merits, but in a game like SC2, I think it's more impressive for a 'champion' to show their merit by being able to slog through the brackets like everyone else, because there's always the chance of being tripped up by something unexpected. I don't minds invites too much, but I prefer players starting on an equal playing field for each tournament. | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On November 29 2018 04:18 Elentos wrote: So much THIS ^Under normal circumstances I'd call it weird that this tournament announcement is the first news we get about WCS 2019. But this is WCS, and I wouldn't be shocked if the official announcement was still like a month away. | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
Little note: "Premium tickets [...] premium seating." That's only true for the semifinals and final, right? | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On November 30 2018 04:20 Kalera wrote: while playing a tournament, your skill at the start is about the same as at the end. We have witnessed many occasions where a player would tighten his play towards the end of a bracket. Thinking of Zest and sOs. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 29 2018 16:03 EEk1TwEEk wrote: Punish them Rogue Punish them all No GSL and no JAGW announcement yet. I'd be very careful | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On November 30 2018 18:16 deacon.frost wrote: No need to be. Rogue would attend even if JAG disbands. Which seems unlikely given their success.No GSL and no JAGW announcement yet. I'd be very careful | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
Katowice 2018 was the final event of their 2017 season (XII). This is the final event of XIII, but IEM XIII had zero SC2 event in any stop. On November 29 2018 16:54 lechatnoir wrote: Wasn't that Olympia thing inKorea that Scarlett won done by IEM? Sure, not part of the season but they organized it? That was also part of season XII, before Katowice 2018. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7072 Posts
On November 30 2018 04:20 Kalera wrote: Eh, are players like Maru, Stats, or TY not big bosses also? It's also not like you somehow 'level up' while playing a tournament, your skill at the start is about the same as at the end. It seems like you're supporting a setup like Chess with a Candidates tournament and a separate championship match. That system has its merits, but in a game like SC2, I think it's more impressive for a 'champion' to show their merit by being able to slog through the brackets like everyone else, because there's always the chance of being tripped up by something unexpected. I don't minds invites too much, but I prefer players starting on an equal playing field for each tournament. I am speechless right now. How can you take my post this serious? lol On the point of someone tripping, yes sure, but with GSL format or double elim brackets this doesn't change the fact that even when upsets happen, the favorite will still pull through in most cases | ||
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ProBell
Thailand145 Posts
I mean this idea/opinion is only from a fan's point of view, I know they are diff companies and stuff but I'd rather see really big prize pools go into more tournaments small/mid sized ones than 1-2 HUGE ones a year. That way more $$ for more pros and SC2 will never ever die. We aren't as big as FortNite and we dont care. Our game is much more competitive and have more respectable players and fans. | ||
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
On November 30 2018 18:58 digmouse wrote: Since there was no IEM circuit in 2018, I think of Katowice as the only IEM event during 2018. Which itself is part of the WCS circuit. Which makes Katowice 2018 a WCS 2018 event...Katowice 2018 was the final event of their 2017 season (XII). This is the final event of XIII, but IEM XIII had zero SC2 event in any stop. That was also part of season XII, before Katowice 2018. | ||
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ssg
United States1777 Posts
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On November 30 2018 22:46 Jj_82 wrote: Since there was no IEM circuit in 2018, I think of Katowice as the only IEM event during 2018. Which itself is part of the WCS circuit. Which makes Katowice 2018 a WCS 2018 event... IEM XIII had events in Sydney, Shanghai and Chicago, all of them CSGO though. Although Katowice hasn't been a real "World Championship" event for a while as previous stops don't always seed into it so it ultimately doesn't matter  | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On November 30 2018 17:45 Jj_82 wrote: Yay for SC2 returning to Katowice!!!! Little note: "Premium tickets [...] premium seating." That's only true for the semifinals and final, right? The auditorium used for days 1 and 2 usually has the first three rows reserved for premium tickets. | ||
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dummy1
420 Posts
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On December 01 2018 18:57 dummy1 wrote: WESG and IEM they have the same month and days... Don't think WESG has announced their date yet, probably will avoid the conflict. | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
On December 01 2018 19:35 digmouse wrote: Don't think WESG has announced their date yet, probably will avoid the conflict. I thought that WESG is a much bigger thing and don't really care about other things, since WESG will feature many games. Is it likely that WESG will take IEM into consideration? There are a few games that will be played in both, but IEM isn't as big as WESG. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On December 01 2018 20:59 Drfilip wrote: I thought that WESG is a much bigger thing and don't really care about other things, since WESG will feature many games. Is it likely that WESG will take IEM into consideration? There are a few games that will be played in both, but IEM isn't as big as WESG. Katowice is hosting the csgo major as well (which is the biggest event on the CS calendar), as well as the sc2 world championship. there's no way WeSG would host an event at the same time | ||
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