Multiple Building Selection - Page 6

On May 21 2007 21:47 Hot_Bid wrote:

yeah but why would you have instantaneous drop/reload, its not realistic and it'd only be in there for that "gosu micro move"

On May 21 2007 23:43 nagash wrote:
I'm pretty sure that this entire post is pointless, because PRODUCTION ISN'T BEING DONE THE SAME WAY.

EDIT: Someone make a new thread with this info. It's important. I can't make new posts for 8 more days.

Check this:

A single Gateway/Warp Gate is constantly producing a single generic unit (I'm assuming only 1).

When that single unit is ready, it is your job to select which type of unit you want it to be and to bring it onto the battlefield INSTANTLY (and paying for it). After you do this, the Gateway/Warp Gate starts producing another one *automatically*.

So, in effect, this will make it even more important to multitask. Since you cant just select your Gateway and spam 5 zealots because there is only 1 available, you will have to make sure you are releasing your units all the time as they are available otherwise you will fall behind.

So basically this makes everyones whinging about being able to select and build from multiple production buildings pointless.

Here's the proof:

For proof - check the video.
~ 5:20 when he warps the Stalkers in from a Warp Gate
There are 4 Warp Gates selected, and each mini icon on the right of the HUD shows there being 4 units available. That is, you can select to create 4 zealots, 4 stalkers, 4 immortals or any combination of the above INSTANTLY (if you have the resources). Once the available numbers reach 0 you can clearly see the cooldown/build timer on the icons!

Btw, a Stalker costs 125 minerals and 50 gas atm. (You can work it out when he warps the first one in, by the resources lost)

Same thing at ~7:10 when he warps the Zealots in from a Warp Gate

On May 22 2007 01:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
gateways on a cooldown is actually a really really cool concept

without build times to factor in i wonder how they'll balance the cost of each unit?

assuming that is the way it is of course

On May 22 2007 01:03 nagash wrote:
It may be that build times will still be different for each unit (ie. Zealot becomes available first, then Immortal 10 secs later or something, etc..)

On May 22 2007 01:04 mahnini wrote:

Yeah, they'll really have to inflate the cost of more powerful units. This is actually a really cool idea and makes sense with the whole protoss warping in units thing.

Edit:

That's also a great idea, something like the unit selection squares are grayed out until the time is sufficient. Awesome. Nice find btw. I'm downloading the high res gameplay trailer now so hopefully I can confirm it.

On May 22 2007 01:25 Zironic wrote:
Right now atleast it's not a money limitation, in the gameplay video the player had thousands of minerals left but still couldn't build anymore Zealots. I think the gateways generate units over time up to a maximum cap, maybe 4 per gateway?

On May 22 2007 01:18 PoP wrote:
Didn't read the whole thread but I think what matters most, before even the the influence on the skill gap (even though this is an issue... but it sounds like the developers care about it), is the balance between micro and macro. I don't want to be able to go 6s7t8v every 20 or so seconds to macro well (I'm thinking about workers' rally points to minerals too). Macro needs to require time and needs to represent about 50% of the gameplay, like SC1. It might be mostly repetitive tasks, but production is not something extremely thrilling anyway.

In other words players should still have to make choices between controlling his/her army better or instead giving an edge to production while leaving units on their own for longer amounts of time.

If macro is too easy, then that choice will disappear, and the game will become either too easy or too micro-oriented (or both), which I think no one wants.

On May 22 2007 02:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
All I can say is...I sincerely hope english is not your first language.