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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:21 Boggyb wrote: Maybe they don't have teams that would be willing to pay their flights because they can't play overseas outside of one tournament. Maybe your suggestion is obviously idiotic, and there's no way that lower tier Koreans would get picked up when there's so many other better players on the market. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On December 27 2017 04:48 Elentos wrote: Really? Being restricted from playing overseas events fucks lower level Koreans? Ones where they can't get through the online qualifiers because, as "lower level" Koreans, the better ones beat them? Ones where since they don't have teams, paying their own flight is hardly worth it considering how high they'd have to finish to cover the costs? That's what fucks lower level Koreans? By "lower level koreans", I'm just refering to the ones that aren't the elite. The ones that won't qualify for blizzcon by playing in korea. Many of them are good enough to play and have success overseas (like in pre-LoTV years) but can't. On December 27 2017 05:25 Elentos wrote: I'm sure Team Liquid, ROOT, mYinsanity and co. are just waiting to pick up DRGLing, HHs and Dandy. The list of teamless koreans extends much further than GMs that like to try Code A every now and again | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Maybe your suggestion is obviously idiotic, and there's no way that lower tier Koreans would get picked up when there's so many other better players on the market. Look up the WCS Austin and WCS Montreal sign ups and note all the European players who never put up results at those tournaments. On December 27 2017 05:25 Elentos wrote: I'm sure Team Liquid, ROOT, mYinsanity and co. are just waiting to pick up DRGLing, HHs and Dandy. They have players on their roster who they fly out to tournaments who accomplish just as little. e.g. TLO | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:43 Fango wrote: By "lower level koreans", I'm just refering to the ones that aren't the elite. The ones that won't qualify for blizzcon by playing in korea. Many of them are good enough to play and have success overseas (like in pre-LoTV years) but can't. The list of teamless koreans extends much further than GMs that like to try Code A every now and again How does that change what I said? They're not good enough to get through online qualifiers consistently should the high level Koreans sign up (and if it's totally open, why not try to qualify for a weekender?). We're not in 2015 anymore where any of these guys would be favored to win against 100% of all available foreigners either. Flight & hotel to play open bracket and Dreamhack for those teamless guys? Teamless, they'd have to finish top 16 to make a profit. Sure, not impossible, but one bad day, one unlucky group away from it just entirely not being worth it. This is far less "fucking lower levels Koreans" than "making sure top level Koreans don't take all the money". | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:52 Boggyb wrote: Look up the WCS Austin and WCS Montreal sign ups and note all the European players who never put up results at those tournaments. They have players on their roster who they fly out to tournaments who accomplish just as little. e.g. TLO So you're actually delusional enough to think that foreign teams would sign them? Korean players just cost more to foreign teams and gain them less (unless they're at the very top). Reverting region lock doesn't help the low-tier Koreans you affect to care for one wit. | ||
SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:25 Elentos wrote: I'm sure Team Liquid, ROOT, mYinsanity and co. are just waiting to pick up DRGLing, HHs and Dandy. DRGLing doesn't even play anymore. After he loss in GSL Code S Ro32 he legit stopped playing so people need to stop mentioning him when he legit doesn't even attempt to qualify. This is his choice. http://aligulac.com/players/9866-DRGLing/ | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On December 27 2017 06:09 SNSeigifried wrote: DRGLing doesn't even play anymore. After he loss in GSL Code S Ro32 he legit stopped playing so people need to stop mentioning him when he legit doesn't even attempt to qualify. This is his choice. http://aligulac.com/players/9866-DRGLing/ Sure, I'll use another example from now on, but I don't think the Ghost of Christmas Past signed him up for the GSL qualifiers every season since then, even if he never actually played. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 27 2017 05:52 Boggyb wrote: Look up the WCS Austin and WCS Montreal sign ups and note all the European players who never put up results at those tournaments. They have players on their roster who they fly out to tournaments who accomplish just as little. e.g. TLO If this post was any denser, it would collapse into a white dwarf. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15911 Posts
On December 27 2017 04:48 Elentos wrote: Really? Being restricted from playing overseas events fucks lower level Koreans? Ones where they can't get through the online qualifiers because, as "lower level" Koreans, the better ones beat them? Ones where since they don't have teams, paying their own flight is hardly worth it considering how high they'd have to finish to cover the costs? That's what fucks lower level Koreans? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Stockholm http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Valencia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Tours A number of participants from those tournaments: Reality, Curious, Leenock, Sacsri, Armani, Apocalypse, Hurricane, HerO, Ryung, Patience, Terminator, Pigbaby, San, Marineking, Heart. All top tier koreans, right? | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On December 27 2017 06:40 Charoisaur wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Stockholm http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Valencia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_DreamHack_Open/Tours A number of participants from those tournaments: Reality, Curious, Leenock, Sacsri, Armani, Apocalypse, Hurricane, HerO, Ryung, Patience, Terminator, Pigbaby, San, Marineking, Heart. All top tier koreans, right? Don't see how that relates to anything I said so please explain to me what exactly you're getting at. Unless your explanation would result in me having to explain how and why these events would look entirely different today. Because that's too much work. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On December 27 2017 07:11 Lorning wrote: Creator my boiiiii Hey look, an on-topic post | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13972 Posts
On December 27 2017 07:11 Lorning wrote: Creator my boiiiii Lorning my boiiiii | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
What tried to develop the SSL last year was good, but it lacked means unfortunately. Imagine an online Code B where the top 4 get as much money as ( or a little less ) the ro32 Code S players with the warchest money. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On December 27 2017 08:18 zealotstim wrote: Whoa does this mean supernova is back?? I see his id in one of the qualifiers. He was discharged from the army awhile back and has been streaming regularly. Not sure how good he is or will become, but it's good to see him playing in the qualifiers. | ||
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
On December 27 2017 08:26 pvsnp wrote: He was discharged from the army awhile back and has been streaming regularly. Not sure how good he is or will become, but it's good to see him playing in the qualifiers. Oh coool! I loved watching him stream back before he went in the military. He was very high on the Korean ladder and would crush people with silly builds when on the NA ladder. I look forward to seeing him back in the gsl when he regains his form! One of the most memorable gsl series' for me was him against Solar where Solar drone rushed him a second time after failing the first time, predicting correctly that supernova would float his cc to the gold base. Good times. | ||
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Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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GothGirlGames
167 Posts
Code S for life :D | ||
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