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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3366 Posts
November 07 2017 16:34 GMT
#61
I find it good that they act on it even if the guy is working with the president now.
Also it looks more loke a political issue than anything kespa actually did or did not do for the game.
Kespa has had a generally positive role in korean esport. At least in the beginning. They allowed players to get paid, being full time "employees" despite being underaged, having regular and law enforceable contracts (unlike scams players suffered in the foreign scene, not being paid etc...). Of course they ended up super rigid and all but those things come hand in hand usually.

@rude, may be because in korea they actually look into it more thoroughly, unlike, say, Mr Balkany (easy example ^^)

Also Life, though an amazing player, did a huge ammount of damage to the scene in Korea and was convicted. He fully deserves what he got.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
November 07 2017 16:36 GMT
#62
Damn, save ESPORTS not kill it!
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
November 07 2017 20:32 GMT
#63
Wut, this sounds exactly like any US government lobbying ...
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highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-07 22:35:26
November 07 2017 22:31 GMT
#64
Is lobbying like this legal in US?

Lobbying itself is entirely illegal in Korea so I can't quite fathom how lobbying is legally done in US. What's the difference between lobbying and bribing a group to do one's bidding?
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
November 07 2017 22:33 GMT
#65


How juicy is this going to get?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 07 2017 22:59 GMT
#66
Pfffffff....
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
November 07 2017 23:07 GMT
#67
mmmm how this will afect sc2 korean scene? Or will not?
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Odowan Paleolithic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States232 Posts
November 07 2017 23:11 GMT
#68
On November 08 2017 07:31 highsis wrote:
Is lobbying like this legal in US?

Lobbying itself is entirely illegal in Korea so I can't quite fathom how lobbying is legally done in US. What's the difference between lobbying and bribing a group to do one's bidding?


I do not know anything about lobbying in Korea.

In US, there is a cap on political contribution and types of entity can make contributions.
see: https://transition.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml

But then there is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC


For me it is puzzling why LOTTE(one of the biggest retailers in Asia) needs a "operating license".
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
November 07 2017 23:13 GMT
#69
KeSPA will have to ban KeSPA for life.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
November 07 2017 23:16 GMT
#70
The scapegoats got hit.
But will justice land a crit?
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 08 2017 00:02 GMT
#71
On November 08 2017 07:33 Ctone23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/927741096138084354

How juicy is this going to get?

I suppose that depends on your definition of juicy. If by that you mean involving players in any real way, it almost certainly won't get very juicy.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 08 2017 00:02 GMT
#72
Life was in fact a victim of a more complex conspiracy
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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NBird
Profile Joined October 2015
United States24 Posts
November 08 2017 00:03 GMT
#73
Excessive power begets corruption. It is throughout history. No suprise honestly, as sad as it is..
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
November 08 2017 00:34 GMT
#74
could you stop mentioning life, it has nothing to do with him and not funny.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
November 08 2017 02:00 GMT
#75
On November 08 2017 07:33 Ctone23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/927741096138084354

How juicy is this going to get?

need someone to bribe an investigator to leak all their replays
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
November 08 2017 03:50 GMT
#76
Somehow I missed this but caught it under the hot threads.

Oh hot diggity someone has the replays! I wonder what else they have...

On November 08 2017 09:34 youngjiddle wrote:
could you stop mentioning life, it has nothing to do with him and not funny.

It could end up having something to do with him, and people, his fans and otherwise, certainly have plenty of unanswered question surrounding the entire situation.

We only know what we know, and I don't think we know a whole lot.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 08 2017 04:31 GMT
#77
On November 08 2017 12:50 blunderfulguy wrote:
Somehow I missed this but caught it under the hot threads.

Oh hot diggity someone has the replays! I wonder what else they have...

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 09:34 youngjiddle wrote:
could you stop mentioning life, it has nothing to do with him and not funny.

It could end up having something to do with him, and people, his fans and otherwise, certainly have plenty of unanswered question surrounding the entire situation.

We only know what we know, and I don't think we know a whole lot.

How would it have anything to do with him? Even if KeSPA officials told him he could match fix, it still wouldn't exonerate him.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 08 2017 05:29 GMT
#78
On November 08 2017 11:00 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 07:33 Ctone23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/927741096138084354

How juicy is this going to get?

need someone to bribe an investigator to leak all their replays


does kespa also hold teamhouse reps too?

I'd think they are more valuable.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 07:20:28
November 08 2017 07:20 GMT
#79
Who cares ? KeSPA dropped SC2 long time ago, so I don't really care about them. Shut them down and burn the building, as far as I am concerned.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
November 08 2017 07:32 GMT
#80
Has no one ever thought of this as a possibility? They run a business lacking integrity... The contractual clause binding players to their will, as if they were slaves, somewhat tilt towards authoritarianism... They require 3rd parties to go through them as a filter to access players for invitationals, somewhat restrictive. There's an argument against this somewhere basing on MLB, NBA, NFL rules... but those are all monopolies in their own rights...whereas, KesPA isn't necessarily a monopoly.
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