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Lgnarrow
104 Posts
On November 10 2017 17:50 engesser1 wrote: Bastards, and they saying it's all because of one man that ruined everything? HAhaa, come on people, FREE LIFE! User was warned for this post 200% agree. Hypocrites... FREE LIFE! User was warned for this post | ||
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Lgnarrow
104 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
I bet you could go lower than free life come on. wheres the free prime and sbenu did nothing wrong? disgusting, like as if KeSPA was the one holding life back. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
But they areverysmart | ||
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Beyond Magic
Finland130 Posts
or am i looking at it wrong way? | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On November 10 2017 21:05 blunderfulguy wrote: Lobbying can also involve advertising through "independant" groups to sway public opinions on complicated issues or views on legislators (or candidates). One of the simpler kinds of lobbying is a lobby group sharing information on how to contact a legislator, or that people should contact a legislator, so on, called grassroots lobbying (in the U.S., at least) and is something I don't think most people even associate with lobbying where I live because of its apparent simplicity and "cleanliness", perhaps as well as it being indirect (as opposed to direct, where a lobby group would contact a person and communicate with them directly). I think most people see lobbying as a way to obfuscate and reflect information, information going to the public/voters, or usually information regarding what money is trading between who's hands. The type of lobbying in this case seems to be the more stereotypical idea that boils down to being that sort of "complicated bribery hogwash", as either my grandfather or an uncle would put it. Yes, there are many types of lobbying. Not all types lobbyist resemble bribery in any way. However, the big corporations that lobby for industries such as pharmaceuticals are basically bribery. Grassroots lobbying is completely natural and organic. It still costs money, like airtime on television and internet to pay for advertising slots, but usually far less to accomplish great goals. | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On November 10 2017 21:41 BLinD-RawR wrote: good thing GundamWerra wasn't a good playerI bet you could go lower than free life come on. wheres the free prime and sbenu did nothing wrong? disgusting, like as if KeSPA was the one holding life back. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Jusba
Finland189 Posts
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On November 12 2017 16:22 SuperFanBoy wrote: Is there a chance of Life coming back now? What needs to happen to get Life competing in sc2? - Kespa needs to cease to exist (extremely unlikely) - Blizzard would have to potentially reinstate Life (highly unlikely) - Afreeca/GSL would have to potentially reinstate Life (also unlikely) - The koreans fans and players would have to welcome Life back (exceedingly unlikely) Remember that even if Kespa were to cease to exist, there's nothing stopping Blizzard or Afreeca from banning Life from the GSL or any WCS events. | ||
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
On November 12 2017 16:31 Chris_Havoc wrote: - Kespa needs to cease to exist (extremely unlikely) - Blizzard would have to potentially reinstate Life (highly unlikely) - Afreeca/GSL would have to potentially reinstate Life (also unlikely) - The koreans fans and players would have to welcome Life back (exceedingly unlikely) Remember that even if Kespa were to cease to exist, there's nothing stopping Blizzard of Afreeca from banning Life from the GSL or any WCS events. What would happen if he competes outside of Korea? e.g. gets invited and attends a HomeStory cup? | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On November 12 2017 16:35 SuperFanBoy wrote: What would happen if he competes outside of Korea? e.g. gets invited and attends a HomeStory cup? Well there are issues with that too. Life is a convicted criminal, which makes any overseas travel difficult due to visa restrictions. Plus it's possible Life may have had his passport revoked. Secondly there's nothing stopping tournament organizers like HSC, ShoutCraft, BaseTrade, or any other events from banning Life. It's their events and they can do whatever the hell they want. | ||
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oleewere
Hungary5 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 12 2017 16:45 Chris_Havoc wrote: Well there are issues with that too. Life is a convicted criminal, which makes any overseas travel difficult due to visa restrictions. Plus it's possible Life may have had his passport revoked. Secondly there's nothing stopping tournament organizers like HSC, ShoutCraft, BaseTrade, or any other events from banning Life. It's their events and they can do whatever the hell they want. On top of that, tournaments that consider including Life will risk being boycotted by other players, especially Korean players. Plus, they also risk sponsors pulling out due to not wanting to be associated with a convicted matchfixer. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
True, most organizers wouldn't touch Life and risk so many other players from boycotting. If BTTV did one though, they should call it IDGAF SC2 tournament. | ||
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lestye
United States4241 Posts
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GTR
51693 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33699 Posts
On November 13 2017 23:46 GTR wrote: honestly this is starting to sound like him being a political scumbag than kespa actually being evil more than anything It's hard to draw the line between the individual and the organization. Who's to say 'KeSPA' didn't benefit from having an influential politician at its head, and tacitly went along his abuses of power? On a related note, it's interesting how KeSPA has somewhat defended Mr. Jun in its public statements, even though he seems totally dead in the water. I wonder when KeSPA will change their stance, expunge all of Mr. Jun's cronies, and try to play the victim while rebuilding their image. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33699 Posts
On November 12 2017 16:45 Chris_Havoc wrote: Well there are issues with that too. Life is a convicted criminal, which makes any overseas travel difficult due to visa restrictions. Plus it's possible Life may have had his passport revoked. Secondly there's nothing stopping tournament organizers like HSC, ShoutCraft, BaseTrade, or any other events from banning Life. It's their events and they can do whatever the hell they want. Blizzard can directly stop them  read my amazing write-up on the situation  https://medium.com/@SaintSnorlax/examining-the-life-situation-without-the-moralizing-c047ff0dc2a0 | ||
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