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Please don't make comments that don't have any content other than 'free life'. They don't contribute to the discussion, and therefore will be moderated from this point on. - The_Templar
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
November 08 2017 07:54 GMT
#81
On November 07 2017 13:09 necrosexy wrote:
FREE LIFE



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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 08 2017 11:32 GMT
#82
I have a suspicion that KeSPA is just as rotten and corrupt to the core as FIFA or NCAA
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Jusba
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland189 Posts
November 08 2017 12:06 GMT
#83
On November 08 2017 20:32 Noonius wrote:
I have a suspicion that KeSPA is just as rotten and corrupt to the core as FIFA or NCAA

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole gambling circle was ran by kespa. Its a pretty big business and people usually get ruined by power and $$. Even the most righteous person can become corrupt on right circumstances. You don't get to the top so easily without doing shit. But go ahead people, believe Obama was nice and eu gives a shit about eu.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
November 08 2017 12:13 GMT
#84
If I remember correctly Kespa has nothing to do with sc2 anymore , am i wrong?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
November 08 2017 12:29 GMT
#85
updated OP with new developments
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
LuLuneth
Profile Blog Joined July 2017
30 Posts
November 08 2017 13:28 GMT
#86
This $100000 meant to go to Kespa as an organisation rather than any specific league correct?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
November 08 2017 14:17 GMT
#87
On November 08 2017 22:28 LuLuneth wrote:
This $100000 meant to go to Kespa as an organisation rather than any specific league correct?

no?
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pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
November 08 2017 14:29 GMT
#88
On November 08 2017 07:31 highsis wrote:
Is lobbying like this legal in US?

Lobbying itself is entirely illegal in Korea so I can't quite fathom how lobbying is legally done in US. What's the difference between lobbying and bribing a group to do one's bidding?


Unfortunately for us serfs, essentially nothing.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 08 2017 14:54 GMT
#89
On November 08 2017 21:06 Jusba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 20:32 Noonius wrote:
I have a suspicion that KeSPA is just as rotten and corrupt to the core as FIFA or NCAA

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole gambling circle was ran by kespa.

I would. The nature of those crimes is very different.
EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation167 Posts
November 08 2017 17:07 GMT
#90
I also want LIFE to be freed, will I be warned for the post?
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 08 2017 17:32 GMT
#91
On November 08 2017 20:32 Noonius wrote:
I have a suspicion that KeSPA is just as rotten and corrupt to the core as FIFA or NCAA


You forgot the granddaddy, IOC
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 08 2017 20:39 GMT
#92
On November 09 2017 02:07 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
I also want LIFE to be freed, will I be warned for the post?

I would say yes
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yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 00:38:30
November 09 2017 00:37 GMT
#93
What a shame
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
November 09 2017 17:55 GMT
#94
Minor update, with a Korean media source stating prosecutors DO have testimony that implicates ex-chairman Jun directly (prosecutors have yet to go after him directly in public)
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 09 2017 18:04 GMT
#95
So which was more corrupt, KeSPA or SBENU?
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
November 10 2017 06:34 GMT
#96
FREE LIFE

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 10 2017 07:50 GMT
#97
Please don't make comments that don't have any content other than 'free life'. They don't contribute to the discussion, and therefore will be moderated from this point on.
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engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-10 09:10:59
November 10 2017 08:50 GMT
#98
Bastards, and they saying it's all because of one man that ruined everything? HAhaa, come on people, FREE LIFE!

User was warned for this post
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
November 10 2017 10:12 GMT
#99
Lobbying and bribery are essentially the same, except lobbying is legal and requires paperwork for transparency.

Unfortunately, understanding the paperwork and process for making/changing laws is difficult to understand. So for the majority of the population, they have no idea who or what is getting lobbied, so it might as well be bribery.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
November 10 2017 12:05 GMT
#100
On November 10 2017 19:12 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Lobbying and bribery are essentially the same, except lobbying is legal and requires paperwork for transparency.

Unfortunately, understanding the paperwork and process for making/changing laws is difficult to understand. So for the majority of the population, they have no idea who or what is getting lobbied, so it might as well be bribery.

Lobbying can also involve advertising through "independant" groups to sway public opinions on complicated issues or views on legislators (or candidates).

One of the simpler kinds of lobbying is a lobby group sharing information on how to contact a legislator, or that people should contact a legislator, so on, called grassroots lobbying (in the U.S., at least) and is something I don't think most people even associate with lobbying where I live because of its apparent simplicity and "cleanliness", perhaps as well as it being indirect (as opposed to direct, where a lobby group would contact a person and communicate with them directly).

I think most people see lobbying as a way to obfuscate and reflect information, information going to the public/voters, or usually information regarding what money is trading between who's hands. The type of lobbying in this case seems to be the more stereotypical idea that boils down to being that sort of "complicated bribery hogwash", as either my grandfather or an uncle would put it.
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