EPTOn September 22 2017 06:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Faster overlords is a godsend even if it's only a 10% increase.
Faster overlords is a godsend even if it's only a 10% increase.
Sure, free ups are godsend for any race, but why ?
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
Sure, free ups are godsend for any race, but why ? | ||
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JackONeill
861 Posts
Why buff the overlord's speed for scouting purposes where a mere 100/100 can grant zerg undisputed and safe early vision of the entire map and the opponent's base? Enough with the random zerg buffs please. | ||
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LTCM
174 Posts
You're forcing every protoss player to literally relearn entirely new ways to play the game. To compensate for this you should provide a crutch to help with the process. Something which will help the race maintain it's footing and can be reverted later. I do believe after six months of live data the team will have these changes balanced. The problem is we know for certain which race will under achieve during those six months and that's wrong. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 22 2017 07:01 highsis wrote: I hate oracle changes. It's been only like weeks since Classic first showed mass oracle strategy, which had never even been dominant, and it's already getting nerfed? It was an interesting strategy to watch. Found the Protoss | ||
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Snarosc
France66 Posts
Found the usual anti-protoss Terran. | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 22 2017 07:02 DieuCure wrote: Sure, free ups are godsend for any race, but why ? Early game scouting is easier, let's you see those pesky cheeses quicker. Pretty self explanatory stuff, it's just a nice boost that fits the speed of LotV a little better | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
Even making the map like Pac-man would be a better fix than increasing base overlord speed. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Found the guy who guessed wrong. Oh wait, are you the Snaro who incessantly bitches about Terran in every twitch chat I've seen? The guy who could pass as avilo if avilo played Protoss? In that case, I'm delighted that you disagree. Now if you agreed, then I'd be worried..... | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 22 2017 07:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Early game scouting is easier, let's you see those pesky cheeses quicker. Pretty self explanatory stuff, it's just a nice boost that fits the speed of LotV a little better It is already 2 * faster than HoTS ... | ||
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Limniscate
United States84 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
The amount of whining against Z is ridiculous. A minor change in speed of overlords which allows the overlords to arrive at the opponent's base a bit faster. It is harmless in general and people whine excessively about it. But then when Blizzard decided to buff the Thor extra +1 armor for no reason, Terran downplayed it as nothing. You guys are the simply the "best". | ||
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Snarosc
France66 Posts
On September 22 2017 07:49 pvsnp wrote: Found the guy who guessed wrong. Oh wait, are you the Snaro who incessantly bitches about Terran in every twitch chat I've seen? The guy who could pass as avilo if avilo played Protoss? In that case, I'm delighted that you disagree. Now if you agreed, then I'd be worried..... How many times will you edit that post ? And come on, don't tell me you ever take this twitch chat seriously. I'm already subbed to Avilo, the irony for a Protoss who supposedly "hates" Terran right ?  (I know, I should get a ban just for that)Anyway, 3 nerfs to 1 unit in 1 patch, that's a first. Not sure if Protoss is the race that should be nerfed in PvZ IF there was one race to be nerfed. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 22 2017 08:04 Snarosc wrote: How many times will you edit that post ? And come on, don't tell me you ever take this twitch chat seriously. I'm already subbed to Avilo, the irony for a Protoss who supposedly "hates" Terran right ? Anyway, 3 nerfs to 1 unit in 1 patch, that's a first. Not sure if Protoss is the race that should be nerfed in PvZ IF there was one race to be nerfed. Your firsts post on TL are against terran. You aren't the smart one here . | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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sc-darkness
856 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On September 22 2017 08:04 Snarosc wrote: How many times will you edit that post ? And come on, don't tell me you ever take this twitch chat seriously. I'm already subbed to Avilo, the irony for a Protoss who supposedly "hates" Terran right ? (I know, I should get a ban just for that)Anyway, 3 nerfs to 1 unit in 1 patch, that's a first. Not sure if Protoss is the race that should be nerfed in PvZ IF there was one race to be nerfed. I've never seen you anywhere besides Twitch chat, what am I supposed to go off? As far as first impressions on TL go, you haven't exactly impressed either. A known Protoss whiner starts whining on TL. Gee, I wonder what the response will be. If you want to change peoples' minds, you have to make an effort. | ||
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Sogetsu
514 Posts
On September 22 2017 08:04 Snarosc wrote: How many times will you edit that post ? And come on, don't tell me you ever take this twitch chat seriously. I'm already subbed to Avilo, the irony for a Protoss who supposedly "hates" Terran right ? (I know, I should get a ban just for that)Anyway, 3 nerfs to 1 unit in 1 patch, that's a first. Not sure if Protoss is the race that should be nerfed in PvZ IF there was one race to be nerfed. You are the one who can't be taken seriously, and you even confirm that, what the heck? About the changes they look nice, I enjoyed a lot playing Protoss, it reminds me of the old nice WoL days, like WhiteRa taught us "We expand then defend", not "Expand and YOLO, get Pylons and 1 MotherCore". I am worried about the Adept vision change tho... but since Mother Core is not a problem anymore I think they will be "Ok" and not needing a nerf (even if most players start abusing them for All In again) Also something I noticed is Stalkers are now again a way to go for All In or at least early pressure since Blink is still good and Upgrades give +2, scout will be even more important than before for all races and I understand the Zerg change because of that. The only think I disliked is the nerf to Stasis Wards... I don't know, why do they need to put a nerf to its time? It is almost like Creep IMO, you set it there and unless your enemy don't try to clear it up it's your map vision and your tool to play with, I don't care about the Stasis Ward not affectinv Larvae but I hate it getting a timing on it and it is not really large, since you spam it when your Oracles can't harass and has full enegy, but bow it will be worthless and you need to start the cast of them when you see your enemy moving... so they arrive and you don't have energy for Pulsar Beam lol | ||
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JWD[9]
364 Posts
On September 22 2017 08:17 sc-darkness wrote: I'm not playing SC2 nowadays. Has the last major balance patch changed the game significantly? How is it different for protoss? This is all talk about the Testmap, which prepares the next major patch. The Mothershipcore got removed, so Pylon overcharge is gone. Chrono uses energy again. We get shield battery, Stalkers play different. Disruptors got changed (not really viable yet imo). Collossi becomes more of a hard counter against light units. With these suggested changes oracles get fixed. Nicest for protoss is, that widowmines now are visible while they reload Patch probably hits after Blizzcon, if you wanna check SC2 out again, that be a good time. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
When we talk about storm they say "ghost", well so, wm -> obs. TvZ is hard nowadays but with this underpowered WM it will be even harder. | ||
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