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On June 25 2017 17:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2017 17:51 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:45 neutralrobot wrote:On June 25 2017 17:33 DieuCure wrote:On June 25 2017 17:31 Musicus wrote:On June 25 2017 17:29 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:24 pvsnp wrote:
Inb4 GSL 2018 is region-locked. It should be region-locked already. It's completely bullshit that WCS is regionlocked but GSL not. sc2 is already not very healzhy in korea and now they prevent the lower-tier players from getting paychecks. If sc2 in korea dies it's because of blizzatds poor decision-making. I actually agree that GSL should be region locked or that people should have to chose between WCS Korea and the WCS Circuit. But I firmly believe this is not Blizzard's decision and the GSL wants foreigners competing in Korea for the hype. +1, players like noregret or scarlett send players to retirement just for their pleasure of losing in ro32 while they can play WCS circuit, it's absurd If Zest and Myungsik retire on the back of these losses to Scarlett, it's because their play hasn't been as good, straight-up. Maybe if they had kept the old kespa teams, they'd still be in shape (though I'd give Scarlett a chance if all three players were in their top form -- peak skill Scarlett was phenomenal), but that's not the reality we're living in. We all want to think of Zest as that incredibly "crisp" player who made victory look easy so much of the time, but it's been a while since we've seen that from him. If players like this had made it into the tournament instead of foreigners, and still played like they did, I feel like I'd still be reading complaints on here because of the play level drop-off. I don't understand this logic. When koreans lose to foreigners it's "they could have played better, their fault" but when foreigners lose to koreans it's "koreans preventing the local scene to grow, ban them!" If your arguing that the best players should qualify, then that should also apply to WCS. GSL is the highest level of Starcraft and should be open to everyone, whereas other tournaments such as WCS can focus on goals like fostering local scenes etc. While Korea needs tournaments to foster the lower strata of their competitive scene, GSL isn't it.
I wouldn't complain if korea had tournaments for the lower-tier players.
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Reminder that a Korean who wants to move their life to another country for months on end, like the foreigners are in the GSL, could also compete in WCS.
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On June 25 2017 17:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2017 17:51 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:45 neutralrobot wrote:On June 25 2017 17:33 DieuCure wrote:On June 25 2017 17:31 Musicus wrote:On June 25 2017 17:29 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:24 pvsnp wrote:
Inb4 GSL 2018 is region-locked. It should be region-locked already. It's completely bullshit that WCS is regionlocked but GSL not. sc2 is already not very healzhy in korea and now they prevent the lower-tier players from getting paychecks. If sc2 in korea dies it's because of blizzatds poor decision-making. I actually agree that GSL should be region locked or that people should have to chose between WCS Korea and the WCS Circuit. But I firmly believe this is not Blizzard's decision and the GSL wants foreigners competing in Korea for the hype. +1, players like noregret or scarlett send players to retirement just for their pleasure of losing in ro32 while they can play WCS circuit, it's absurd If Zest and Myungsik retire on the back of these losses to Scarlett, it's because their play hasn't been as good, straight-up. Maybe if they had kept the old kespa teams, they'd still be in shape (though I'd give Scarlett a chance if all three players were in their top form -- peak skill Scarlett was phenomenal), but that's not the reality we're living in. We all want to think of Zest as that incredibly "crisp" player who made victory look easy so much of the time, but it's been a while since we've seen that from him. If players like this had made it into the tournament instead of foreigners, and still played like they did, I feel like I'd still be reading complaints on here because of the play level drop-off. I don't understand this logic. When koreans lose to foreigners it's "they could have played better, their fault" but when foreigners lose to koreans it's "koreans preventing the local scene to grow, ban them!" If your arguing that the best players should qualify, then that should also apply to WCS. GSL is the highest level of Starcraft and should be open to everyone, whereas other tournaments such as WCS can focus on goals like fostering local scenes etc. While Korea needs tournaments to foster the lower strata of their competitive scene, GSL isn't it.
Unfortunately it's the only one that has a chance of being 'it'. Realistically it's the only one that pays well enough (just for qualifying) to make trying to be a progamer worth your time.
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On June 25 2017 17:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2017 17:51 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:45 neutralrobot wrote:On June 25 2017 17:33 DieuCure wrote:On June 25 2017 17:31 Musicus wrote:On June 25 2017 17:29 Charoisaur wrote:On June 25 2017 17:24 pvsnp wrote:
Inb4 GSL 2018 is region-locked. It should be region-locked already. It's completely bullshit that WCS is regionlocked but GSL not. sc2 is already not very healzhy in korea and now they prevent the lower-tier players from getting paychecks. If sc2 in korea dies it's because of blizzatds poor decision-making. I actually agree that GSL should be region locked or that people should have to chose between WCS Korea and the WCS Circuit. But I firmly believe this is not Blizzard's decision and the GSL wants foreigners competing in Korea for the hype. +1, players like noregret or scarlett send players to retirement just for their pleasure of losing in ro32 while they can play WCS circuit, it's absurd If Zest and Myungsik retire on the back of these losses to Scarlett, it's because their play hasn't been as good, straight-up. Maybe if they had kept the old kespa teams, they'd still be in shape (though I'd give Scarlett a chance if all three players were in their top form -- peak skill Scarlett was phenomenal), but that's not the reality we're living in. We all want to think of Zest as that incredibly "crisp" player who made victory look easy so much of the time, but it's been a while since we've seen that from him. If players like this had made it into the tournament instead of foreigners, and still played like they did, I feel like I'd still be reading complaints on here because of the play level drop-off. I don't understand this logic. When koreans lose to foreigners it's "they could have played better, their fault" but when foreigners lose to koreans it's "koreans preventing the local scene to grow, ban them!" If your arguing that the best players should qualify, then that should also apply to WCS. GSL is the highest level of Starcraft and should be open to everyone, whereas other tournaments such as WCS can focus on goals like fostering local scenes etc. While Korea needs tournaments to foster the lower strata of their competitive scene, GSL isn't it.
GSL is the only KR tournament to make a living ( SSL = premier only so if you arent top 10 you cant )
It's a local scenes, and you are ready to kill her
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Wow so many foreigners came to Korea.
Zest 
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On June 25 2017 17:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Reminder that a Korean who wants to move their life to another country for months on end, like the foreigners are in the GSL, could also compete in WCS.
Reminder that TRUE had to wait 9 months before he got his visa.
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Hurricane 2:1 Neeb
TEAR'D APART
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oh wow, Neeb not making it is quite ironic
too bad
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NOREGRET > NEEB CONFIRMED
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"Triple Crown"
"Top 10"
Ye GG WCS Champion = ro64
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Really? Out of all of them Neeb is the one who doesn't make it?
That's
Funny and sad at the same time
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On June 25 2017 17:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Reminder that a Korean who wants to move their life to another country for months on end, like the foreigners are in the GSL, could also compete in WCS.
Reminder that TRUE needed 9 months to get his VISA.
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GSL qualifiers are such a joke
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On June 25 2017 17:58 pvsnp wrote:
NOREGRET > NEEB CONFIRMED
I don't even know I should laugh about that or simply cry for such a ridiculous meme about to be born.
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On June 25 2017 17:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2017 17:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Reminder that a Korean who wants to move their life to another country for months on end, like the foreigners are in the GSL, could also compete in WCS. Reminder that TRUE had to wait 9 months before he got his visa.
Okay, pretty sure noregret has been in Korea that long too no? The point still stands.
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On June 25 2017 17:58 Nerchio wrote:
GSL qualifiers are such a joke
I'm glad that you aren't going for that easy money grabbing from Korean amateurs, real class, Artur!
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On June 25 2017 17:58 Nerchio wrote:
GSL qualifiers are such a joke
There you go. Even Nerchio says it as it is... Man, I can't say it better!
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At least Drogo and Neeb can comfort each other
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The distribution of groups is absurd
ANd BO3 too
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EPT
