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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:24 opisska wrote: If I lived in Korea and were Masters, I'd just go the for the chance to play against a big name and lose spectacularly ... Yeah i would go for it as well i think, seems like fun. The interest just isn't there. I hope this changes adn we see at least a few new players. | ||
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:19 opisska wrote: Really just only 80 people? That is almost mindblowing. Why don't more people just give it a shot?! Well you have to be Masters+ and travel to the place they're holding the qualifiers in. Many people probably think that getting their ass kicked by a pro/semi-pro in the first round isn't worth the time it takes to actually get there (even though for some of us that would be a dream come true). I mean if you live a bit away from Seoul it's not worth it to pay for the train to get 2-0'd. Also, GSL qualifiers generally happen on work days. So if you're not a pro already it's hard to have the time off to go play. Also back in the olden days Artosis actually had the courage to sign up and play in these, that's another one missing. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: I would assume that nobody really thinks he can beat pros, add to that the general state of the korean scene and it doesn't seem to be worth it? Dunno. But yeah 80 is really low indeed :/ You can always get lucky too. GGanDoL made Code A off three byes and cheesing out Cella. | ||
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: I would assume that nobody really thinks he can beat pros, add to that the general state of the korean scene and it doesn't seem to be worth it? Dunno. But yeah 80 is really low indeed :/ I mean 80 isn't super low, there were 8 players seeded into Code S and 24 already in Code A from the previous season, so in total it was over 110. That actually is more than the signups they had for the first Code A qualifiers of 2016 where Code A was like 60 people and basically everyone with a recognizable name got into it. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:27 Elentos wrote: Well you have to be Masters+ and travel to the place they're holding the qualifiers in. Many people probably think that getting their ass kicked by a pro/semi-pro in the first round isn't worth the time it takes to actually get there (even though for some of us that would be a dream come true). I mean if you live a bit away from Seoul it's not worth it to pay for the train to get 2-0'd. Also, GSL qualifiers generally happen on work days. So if you're not a pro already it's hard to have the time off to go play. Also back in the olden days Artosis actually had the courage to sign up and play in these, that's another one missing. Yeah, I always forget that people have these problems with working days : ) And those are probably even much worse in Korean almost-japan-level-work-crazy culture from what I have heard ... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:34 The_Red_Viper wrote: Would be interesting to see how the code a qualifier attendance developed over the years tbh. Minus one buff, bald German dude filming players in order to please the fans who can't be there live. Khaldor pls After counting: for 2016 S2, 83 people who signed up were put into the brackets for the qualifier (some no-showed/forfeited as the event went on, but I just counted "successful" sign-ups). S1 was the big qualifier where 60 Code A spots were up for grabs because the seeds got reset, so naturally it had more participants (104). For 2015 S3, 82 people were put into the brackets (so the last season of 15 and 16 were about the same). If you go back further than that the number of successful sign-ups goes up by about 20 for seasons without seeds getting reset (2015 S2 had 98 players, 2014 S3 103). So if this season gets something around 100 participants that's pretty good. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On December 20 2016 02:08 Elentos wrote: Also don't like it much. But I guess at least it makes sure that the players who get in GSL are in form (I realize this format brings with it the chance to miss out on top players because of an unlucky bracket with 2 top players in it but Code A has the same problem). GSL's site has the estimated dates of all GSL tournaments this year (except GSL vs The World) by the way. GSL S1 - January 4 to March 25 GSL Super Tournament 1 - April 6 to April 9 GSL S2 - April 19 to June 24 GSL S3 - July 5 to September 16 GSL Super Tournament 2 - September 29 to October 1 Source Based on what Google Translate gives me for that page, it seems like they're doing away with Code A entirely: - Code A는 예선전으로 대체되지만, 32강으로 집중된 더 많은 정규 리그가 연간 3회 진행됩니다. which translates to - Code A will be replaced by qualifying, but more regular leagues will be held three times a year. Really bad news for the Korean scene if true. Effectively limits the size of the scene to 32 players max. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
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Zavec
4 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On December 20 2016 08:11 Zavec wrote: The super tournaments will hopefully be big though, wasn't the last one a 64 player? 64 players single elimination. It needs to be this way if there is no code A or B teamer won't play anything else than code B for the entire year. | ||
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 08:18 imre wrote: 64 players single elimination. It needs to be this way if there is no code A or B teamer won't play anything else than code B for the entire year. They're 16-player tournaments. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
Really? I guess every B teamer should retire then :/ Do you have a source for this ? | ||
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 08:40 imre wrote: Really? I guess every B teamer should retire then :/ Do you have a source for this ? Their site lists pretty much all the info for 2017 GSL including the approximate dates of all tournaments. ![[image loading]](http://stimg.afreecatv.com/NORMAL_BBS/3/9521573/55435857509df36a1.png) Shows the formats. They also say that GSL vs the World will have a 120,000,000 Won prize pool so about 100,000$ but who knows how that will get distributed and who gets to play in that. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On December 16 2016 19:45 Elentos wrote: Ladder rank and score (e.g. Masters, 500 points) LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The ladder system is so confusing that they've duped even the GSL into believing ladder points actually matter and ignoring the fact that MMR is the actual skill measure. Sad. | ||
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Elentos
55567 Posts
On December 20 2016 08:47 paralleluniverse wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The ladder system is so confusing that they've duped even the GSL into believing ladder points actually matter and ignoring the fact that MMR is the actual skill measure. Sad. Sorry to burst your bubble, but GSL asked for that same information years before MMR even got visible in-game. And to my knowledge they don't use it for anything actually important (like seeding top level players) so it really isn't much of a difference if they take MMR or ladder points. | ||
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Zavec
4 Posts
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
I would change it myself but that's beyond my scope plus I'm afraid I might break something...  | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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