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Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
October 28 2016 20:45 GMT
#41
Ulrena? Great map! I hope they bring it back. Most fun I've had in all of LotV was everytime Ulrena came up
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
October 28 2016 20:46 GMT
#42
NO plz. PLZ give new maps come on seriously dont have another dreampool
I love hellbats
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 20:55:16
October 28 2016 20:51 GMT
#43
Daybreak - sure
Dusk Towers - HELL NO, I'm sick of it...I'd use Vaani Research Station instead
Echo - yes please
Habitation Station - HELL YES
Ulrena - I like this wonky map
Newkirk Precinct - aka "Old Gettysburg" nah
Whirlwind - yes
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 20:59:13
October 28 2016 20:51 GMT
#44
Um plz don't re add ulerena. That map is hellish because of the insane rush dostances. I don't rember the days of opening 1 base to prepare for the inevitable 1 base ravager or pylon rush at my ramp. The map just forces either an early Allin or insane turtling it's not fun. It will be even worse with the removal of tankivacs to hold off the kind of rushes that work on a map like this.

Also although I personally loved whirlwind in hots and wol, I don't think with the current late game ballance that introducing maps of that size is a good idea. It's hard enough to pressure on maps like frost I could see whirlwind being on evrey terran's ban list just to avoid the ultra train.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Mier19891
Profile Joined May 2015
United States75 Posts
October 28 2016 20:53 GMT
#45
I'm cool with all these except Dusk Towers. Played to death. I like the Vaani Research Station idea though. That map is sweet.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 28 2016 20:58 GMT
#46
You don't need two turtle-style maps in the map pool. Echo more than covers that, and maps like Dusk Towers and Vaani will just make people hate life on ladder.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 21:01:07
October 28 2016 21:00 GMT
#47
Also why not give us some new maps, there were plenty of promising ones back in the last tl mapping contest.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 28 2016 21:19 GMT
#48
Not going to lie, I"d love to see how Hab Stat is going to play out in LoTV. In HoTS it was pretty easy to hold the gold base due to having the 2x wide ramp but now in LoTV with so many more harass options I"m guessing people might shy away from it. Although, it isn't a very base dense map so not sure how it'll play out in LoTV.

Either way, would love to see new maps but I can't deny and say I"m not excited to see my golden child being played on again.

TLMC, where are you?
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
probinghood
Profile Joined September 2016
3 Posts
October 28 2016 21:38 GMT
#49
If u want a macro map, dont need to push again recent maps, we can add Entombed Valley, or even Antiga Shipyard.
Another standard macro (2 player map) change would be Deadwing, Neo Planet S, or Heavy Rain, instead of Newkirk (not balanced at all in lotv i think but just my opinion).
I know u guys of blizzard want every season 1 crazy map, so you say ulrena (dasan atm), I say xel'naga caverns.
I love the idea of getting new maps, but seriously, read opinions like this, maybe u remember some map u forgot, like Yeonsu, and make starcraft good again!
Keep the work blizz, its really improving (and fix the mmr problem, everyone cant be master).

Entropy137
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 22:27:21
October 28 2016 22:26 GMT
#50
Can't wait to play Habitation Station again.
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 28 2016 22:37 GMT
#51
On October 29 2016 04:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
lol dreampool again. I'm fine with that actually, their choices look solid, and anyway with the mapmaking community dying out as well better get prepared to recycle maps forever from now on.


dying out, but not for lack off effort from mapmakers.

On October 29 2016 04:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
'We really want to fine tune the numbers for balance changes so to not have to take maps in mind we will randomly add WoL and HotS maps that were not made for LotV'

solid logic, critics rate it a perfect 10/10


yeah, this boggles my mind as well.

On October 29 2016 05:06 WinterStarcraft wrote:
I feel there are several community/possibly even TLMC maps that didn't quite make the ladder cut that should be considered over old outdated maps. There are several very committed mapmakers as well as many amateur ones with next to no reason to even bother with the idea if they are not going to be utilized during this "off season" sort of period after WCS.

Avex's Huangshan (featured in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/510211-250-huangshan-mt-open-cup-friday-17th and made in conjunction with Liquid.Snute) is a great looking map with solid balance and no obvious abuse angles (liberator angles, obvious backdoors etc) could easily be a replacement for Echo or Newkirk.



several doesn't even come close, the effort the mapmaking scene puts in and how little of it is used is astonishing.
"Not you."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 22:43:55
October 28 2016 22:39 GMT
#52
I agree recycling maps that weren't even conceived for lotv specificities instead of giving a chance to those who missed their window (and some of those maps were lotv tailored) is stupid.
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
October 28 2016 22:45 GMT
#53
On October 29 2016 04:30 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I want Bel'shir Beach

Honestly is also one of my all time favorite, this map has a special vibe, brightness and nature is something we dont see much lately.
gab12
Profile Joined June 2016
Poland147 Posts
October 28 2016 22:52 GMT
#54
Polar night,Daybreak, Echo, habitation station , Belshir vestige, Heavy rain, Derelict watcher! please make tohse great maps coem back ^^
gab12
Profile Joined June 2016
Poland147 Posts
October 28 2016 22:54 GMT
#55
wtf why dafaq ppl saying community dying , well that s thing i cant stand about sc2 all those trash ppl saying dead game everything is lost etc ... just pathetic
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
October 28 2016 22:56 GMT
#56
why ever have new maps for lotv? let's just recycle forever the same ones. For sure we haven't seen enough daybreak games during the course of SC2.
Swirly00
Profile Joined January 2012
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 17:04:50
October 28 2016 22:56 GMT
#57
We don't get to see 10 base maps anymore because of the LotV economy change. Considering this is a testing period, it would be interesting if Blizzard tried adding one of the standard 10 base maps from the old map pools to see how games play out.

If we went in this direction, either Bel'Shir Vestige and Ohana would be great candidates. Considering the lack of bases and openness of these two maps it could make for some fast paced and interesting mid game scenarios. The lack of watchtowers on Ohana is a feature that we works well in a lot modern maps so it would be interesting to see how that works with only 10 bases. I didn't notice any clearly imbalanced scenarios that could arise for the zerg matchups. If terran and protoss players could offer some insight for the other matchups, I'd appreciate it.

Outside of that, other potentially interesting maps include:
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Cloud Kingdom - Have the watch towers deactivate after first 5 minutes. My friends and I considered this the most balanced map in the pool back in the day and had plently of great games on it. I remember stalker colossus in zvp being very strong here so it could be interesting to see if LotV colossus are able still able to serve a purpose on this map.

Metropolis - Forced cross spawn and either remove or have the watch towers deactivate after first 5 minutes. I think New Gettysburg has shown us that large island maps can produce interesting games, but because this map lacks the amount of attack paths we see on Precinct, it would make sense to remove the watch towers as they provide to much vision.

Derelict Watcher - No changes are necessary. Tankivacs at the 3 and 9 o'clock bases would be strong in zvt, but if it becomes an issue players can take the other 3rd.

Neo Planet S - While I think this map was one of the hardest zvt maps if the opponent went bio mine, it produced a lot of really interesting games in all the zerg match ups. There was also an especially cool tvt polt played on this map, but sadly I don't remember the tournament or opponent.


I've been masters as zerg since the league came out and have memories of just about every map that has been in the ladder pool. So for what its worth, I think I have a solid idea of what constitutes a good/bad map for zergs. I can't speak for the other races, but these are maps that none of my terran or protoss buddies have had to many complaints about.

[edit] mixed up New Gettysburg with Newkirk Precinct


halomonian
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil255 Posts
October 28 2016 23:05 GMT
#58
If blizz is as mad as they look by trying to re add ulrena, why dont they add blistering sands instead of ulrena?
thoughts in chaos | enjOy[dream]
YSMS
Profile Joined April 2015
China35 Posts
October 28 2016 23:09 GMT
#59
tlmc please!i want some new maps! good maps! not ulrena
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51491 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 23:23:19
October 28 2016 23:22 GMT
#60
while i love the concept of dreampool 2.0 for the wcs off-season, i disagree with adding maps to the pool that have already been played in lotv such as dusk towers and ulrena.
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