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Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay211 Posts
October 28 2016 19:15 GMT
#1
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This week’s balance update

Balance Testing

BlizzCon is coming up, so we want to push the Ultralisk and Cyclone changes to go into effect after the event. BlizzCon gives us the chance to watch the top players compete at the highest levels, which is another opportunity to make balance changes to fine tune the game. With the offseason coming up a few weeks after BlizzCon, we have a great opportunity to get more wide-spread testing, so we plan to apply the balance patch to the ladder at that point. Note that this doesn’t mean all of these changes are final—we will continue to work with all of you to iterate and improve on these changes to get them in a good state for season 1 next year.

Maps

After the BlizzCon finals, we’d like to change out the map pool during the offseason and replace them with familiar existing maps. That way we can focus on the final numbers tuning of the major patch changes during the last ladder season of this year. We’d also like to make sure that the map pool consists of a diverse set of maps so we can be confident we covered all our bases.

The map design team has come up with a rough, initial set of maps for your consideration, so let’s start talking about which of these maps need to be changed out before we finalize the map pool.

Daybreak
Dusk Towers
Echo
Habitation Station
Ulrena
Newkirk Precinct
Whirlwind

Keep in mind that we need to keep a diverse map pool, so if you remove a map of a certain type, please only suggest another map of the same type as its replacement. For example, if you want to remove Dusk Towers, please suggest another macro map


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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 19:17 GMT
#2
lol dreampool again. I'm fine with that actually, their choices look solid, and anyway with the mapmaking community dying out as well better get prepared to recycle maps forever from now on.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 19:17 GMT
#3
Oh god please

Newkirk? Ulrena? Dusk Towers? Fucking what?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay211 Posts
October 28 2016 19:17 GMT
#4
I'll go on detail about my ideas and what I think about the Map Pool on my little Blog.

I'm not cool with this, yet, I don't see this as a failure on the DevTeam's side of things.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 19:19 GMT
#5
If I were to give my opinion I'd say get Ulrena out but they'll probably want a "strange" map and I dislike them because they're strange, so... This will just be my automatic veto, be it Ulrena, Dasan or Scrap Station.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 28 2016 19:19 GMT
#6
Whyyyyyyyy...

I hope we won't get stuck with these maps for too long.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 19:20 GMT
#7
I mean at least don't bring back maps that were in the pool for the majority of the year already. Take out Dusk Towers, Echo is a really similar map anyway, take another decent macro map instead. And for a rush map like Ulrena, I guess there aren't that many good options.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:23:34
October 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#8
DAYBREAK AND ECHO WHAT


thank god I have started making swarm hosts vs mech on the test map


e: literally all of these maps are awful. Newkirk is basically worse Gettysburg
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#9
On October 29 2016 04:20 Elentos wrote:
I mean at least don't bring back maps that were in the pool for the majority of the year already. Take out Dusk Towers, Echo is a really similar map anyway, take another decent macro map instead. And for a rush map like Ulrena, I guess there aren't that many good options.

I'd rather have them get back Lerilak Crest, I guess that's a rush map ?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
October 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#10
Dreampool again ? Sure, I guess, but please take out Dusk Towers, we've been seeing it all freaking year long
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
October 28 2016 19:22 GMT
#11
this is so cool I want to play on Daybreak so much
but fuck ulrena...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 19:23 GMT
#12
I'd replace Ulrena with Korhal Sky Island and Dusk Towers with something solid like Coda.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 19:23 GMT
#13
On October 29 2016 04:23 Elentos wrote:
I'd replace Ulrena with Korhal Sky Island and Dusk Towers with something solid like Coda.

oh yeah I'd love to play Coda again. Bel'shir Vestige too.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:26:47
October 28 2016 19:24 GMT
#14
if they bring back old maps I'd prefer:
-Daybreak
-Cloud Kingdom
-Overgrowth
-Coda
-Akilon waste
-Merry go round
-Whirlwind

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:27:27
October 28 2016 19:26 GMT
#15
'We really want to fine tune the numbers for balance changes so to not have to take maps in mind we will randomly add WoL and HotS maps that were not made for LotV'

solid logic, critics rate it a perfect 10/10
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2016 19:26 GMT
#16
Lulrena. Why?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 19:27 GMT
#17
please bring back Foxtrot Labs, that wonderful map was robbed of a season on ladder.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:28:21
October 28 2016 19:27 GMT
#18
Daybreak - yes
Dusk Towers - oh god please no
Echo - sure why not
Habitation Station - yes
Ulrena - fuck you blizz
Newkirk Precinct - meh, could be worse
Whirlwind - yes
vibeo gane,
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 19:29 GMT
#19
On October 29 2016 04:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
please bring back Foxtrot Labs, that wonderful map was robbed of a season on ladder.

Oh yeah

Daybreak, Echo, Coda, Foxtrot, Habitation, Whirlwind, Newkirk

That's not so bad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:30:22
October 28 2016 19:30 GMT
#20
I want Bel'shir Beach
Neosteel Enthusiast
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