EPTNerchio: "I`ll change the perception of foreigners." - Pag…
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baiesradu
Romania150 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1835 Posts
In game 1 particularly he had a massive advantage and threw it away not by a singular mistake, but by incrementally falling further behind as he did nothing to prevent Maru from eeking out small advantages. His inability to prevent Maru from canceling his bases over and over put him in a position of inevitable defeat. People praise Nerchio's defense, but in game 3 all he did was defend. Maru pinned him back so effectively that he did nothing to hinder Maru's economy. Maru took an early third and got away with it. The result of the match was determined the moment Nerchio failed to punish him for that. To top it off, Nerchio's biles in game 1 were abysmal. He won the early build order battle in game 1, but then lost due to poor multitasking and micro, both the hallmarks of mid-late game Starcraft. In game 3 he showed a lack of understanding of the larger situation. Not once did he even attempt a run by to alleviate pressure on himself. He simply kept falling behind until he had lost. | ||
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Aegwynn
Italy460 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On October 01 2016 00:11 Aegwynn wrote: Both Maru's wins were on heavily terran favoured maps so yes it was very close. While not a large sample size.. Galatic process actually has a slightly higher Zerg win rate in the match up The map Nerchio won on is also zerg favored according to stats In other words your excuses are bullshit. Nerchio couldn't back up his talk, plain and simple. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On October 01 2016 00:29 Necro)Phagist( wrote: While not a large sample size.. Galatic process actually has a slightly higher Zerg win rate in the match up The map Nerchio won on is also zerg favored according to stats In other words your excuses are bullshit. Nerchio couldn't back up his talk, plain and simple. Nerchio said it would probably be very hard to beat Maru offline, I think he backed up his talk today  . | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On October 01 2016 00:36 stuchiu wrote: I don't think my perception has changed, but I never thought they were that bad to begin with. My perception hasn't changed in the least. Like always they are for the most part below the Koreans with 1 guy who can make a decent showing. Nothing has changed with aggravates me even more. Despite my elitist, 'hate posting' a part of me really did want Foreigners to do better, to see that change. At least that way the Korean scene isn't slowly dying for nothing. But this.. Literally killing the scene so spoiled brats can milk a bit more money out of the game is beyond infuriating. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 01 2016 00:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote: My perception hasn't changed in the least. Like always they are for the most part below the Koreans with 1 guy who can make a decent showing. Nothing has changed with aggravates me even more. Despite my elitist, 'hate posting' a part of me really did want Foreigners to do better, to see that change. At least that way the Korean scene isn't slowly dying for nothing. But this.. Literally killing the scene so spoiled brats can milk a bit more money out of the game is beyond infuriating. This pov is incredibly shallow and misses any nuance this topic deserves. Not that i am surprised to see it on here but still.. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17662 Posts
On September 30 2016 23:48 mizenhauee wrote: I really don't understand why people insist Nerchio played well versus Maru. He got severely outplayed in both games 1 and 3 and did not deserve to win the series. In game 1 particularly he had a massive advantage and threw it away not by a singular mistake, but by incrementally falling further behind as he did nothing to prevent Maru from eeking out small advantages. His inability to prevent Maru from canceling his bases over and over put him in a position of inevitable defeat. People praise Nerchio's defense, but in game 3 all he did was defend. Maru pinned him back so effectively that he did nothing to hinder Maru's economy. Maru took an early third and got away with it. The result of the match was determined the moment Nerchio failed to punish him for that. To top it off, Nerchio's biles in game 1 were abysmal. He won the early build order battle in game 1, but then lost due to poor multitasking and micro, both the hallmarks of mid-late game Starcraft. In game 3 he showed a lack of understanding of the larger situation. Not once did he even attempt a run by to alleviate pressure on himself. He simply kept falling behind until he had lost. I agree with you that it wasn't as close as most people are saying, but Nerchio still played well for a foreigner | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:24 Die4Ever wrote: I agree with you that it wasn't as close as most people are saying, but Nerchio still played well for a foreigner if I was nerchio, I would feel insulted by this lol. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17662 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:30 BigFan wrote: if I was nerchio, I would feel insulted by this lol. no need to feel insulted, he's definitely a top 5 foreigner, maybe top 3 | ||
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SKN1995
Japan204 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:37 SKN1995 wrote: Nerchio played well for Nerchio. While he didnt really stand a chance against the Koreans he faced even though they weren't bringing their A-game (esp Classic who played so atrociously poorly ), I don't think Nerchio has ever hit his injects better, spread his creep better, been more on point than these days - so who knows; if he keeps practising maybe one day he will be able to compete with the big boys. Nerchio played as well as any Korean there. But when you have a group of 4 very skilled players and only two make it out, Nechio's chances of advancing are 50%. | ||
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DR
52 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:39 BronzeKnee wrote: Nerchio played as well as any Korean there. But when you have a group of 4 very skilled players and only two make it out, Nechio's chances of advancing are 50%. So you say that starcraft at this level is random? | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
The best player at the moment always wins. But upsets happen. | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
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SKN1995
Japan204 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: I didn't say that. What I said is that they are all very skilled. The best player at the moment always wins. But upsets happen. "all very skilled" XDDD Were we watching the same games today? Classic going MSC before 2nd and 3rd Gateway in his first game against Nerchio. Classic losing an Archon while doing Warp Prism harass to Roaches, Ravagers and Queens in the second game of that series. Patience miscontrolling his first Oracle in his first game against Nerchio, only killing 3 Drones when he easily could have gotten 4-5 Drones with just decent control. Nerchio not being prepared for when Patience's second Oracle coming around in the same game despite this not being an uncommon thing for Protosses to do when going Oracle. Patience losing both of his Oracles to a Spore and two Queens only killing off a few Probes in the second game against Nerchio. Just to name a few of all the silly mistakes being made today. | ||
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SKN1995
Japan204 Posts
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SKN1995
Japan204 Posts
On October 01 2016 01:52 BronzeKnee wrote: I didn't say that. What I said is that they are all very skilled. The best player at the moment always wins. But upsets happen. "all very skilled" XDDD Were we watching the same games today? Classic going MSC before 2nd and 3rd Gateway in his first game against Nerchio. Classic losing an Archon while doing Warp Prism harass to Roaches, Ravagers and Queens in the second game of that series. Patience miscontrolling his first Oracle in his first game against Nerchio, only killing 3 Drones when he easily could have gotten 4-5 Drones with just decent control. Nerchio not being prepared for Patience's second Oracle coming around in the same game despite this not being an uncommon thing for Protosses to do when going Oracle. Patience losing both of his Oracles to a Spore and two Queens only killing off a few Probes in the second game against Nerchio. Just to name a few of all the silly mistakes being made today. | ||
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SKN1995
Japan204 Posts
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