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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 20 2016 20:38 GMT
#101
On May 21 2016 03:31 Shield wrote:
Well, I guess PvZ will be nightmare now after this immortal nerf.

no immortal archon chargelot will most probably still do fine. Barriers weren't fully depleted before they ran out most of the time.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 20 2016 21:30 GMT
#102
On May 21 2016 05:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 03:31 Shield wrote:
Well, I guess PvZ will be nightmare now after this immortal nerf.

no immortal archon chargelot will most probably still do fine. Barriers weren't fully depleted before they ran out most of the time.


So if this immortal barrier isn't a problem in PvZ, why nerf then?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 20 2016 21:32 GMT
#103
On May 21 2016 06:30 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 05:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 21 2016 03:31 Shield wrote:
Well, I guess PvZ will be nightmare now after this immortal nerf.

no immortal archon chargelot will most probably still do fine. Barriers weren't fully depleted before they ran out most of the time.


So if this immortal barrier isn't a problem in PvZ, why nerf then?


They were a problem. The fact that they weren't fully depleted just means that the nerf isn't quite as heavy as it looks.
Venser
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia232 Posts
May 21 2016 07:41 GMT
#104
King Sejong Station, Frost and Frozen Temple in map pool? Winter is coming,
Dabble
Profile Joined February 2016
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-22 03:27:57
May 22 2016 03:27 GMT
#105
These supply changes make sense because on some maps in LotV where it's hard to take a 4th base, or even a 3rd base on a map like Central Protocol, and a 4th or 3rd base is absolutely required to keep the game going, the final engagement of the game happens and neither player is maxed out. Infact there are a lot of games where neither player ever maxes out on supply. It changes the dynamic of the game a lot, especially for Zerg and Protoss, less so for Terran
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 22 2016 14:37 GMT
#106
On May 21 2016 16:41 Venser wrote:
King Sejong Station, Frost and Frozen Temple in map pool? Winter is coming,


On May 18 2016 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Frost + King Sejong + Frozen Temple

Winter is coming


ha ha ha

the paradoxical thing is that it's going to be summer outside
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1510 Posts
May 22 2016 15:00 GMT
#107
On May 22 2016 23:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 16:41 Venser wrote:
King Sejong Station, Frost and Frozen Temple in map pool? Winter is coming,


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Frost + King Sejong + Frozen Temple

Winter is coming


ha ha ha

the paradoxical thing is that it's going to be summer outside

depends where you live
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 22 2016 15:03 GMT
#108
On May 23 2016 00:00 Railgan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2016 23:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On May 21 2016 16:41 Venser wrote:
King Sejong Station, Frost and Frozen Temple in map pool? Winter is coming,


On May 18 2016 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Frost + King Sejong + Frozen Temple

Winter is coming


ha ha ha

the paradoxical thing is that it's going to be summer outside

depends where you live

true
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
May 22 2016 15:42 GMT
#109
Nice to see them spicing up the map pool a bit. I'm not sure how balanced Frost and King Sejong Station will be in LotV. The third seems a little difficult on Frost and Liberators will probably be very good on KSS.

I don't like the Cyclone and Swarm Host changes. I don't think it will fix any of the problems that those units have.
weikor
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria580 Posts
May 22 2016 16:19 GMT
#110
On May 18 2016 19:33 WigglingSquid wrote:
I may be one of the few watchers who miss the old Immortal. Obvious strengths and weaknesses without yet more timed spells that are hard to track and manage beyond sheer "mass 'em up and let them do their thing".


i think the role of the "ranged High dps to armor - high survivability " is flawed in itself. Either you have a unit that has high dps, or high survivability - not both. In its old form the immortal would always pose a problem.

Its an upgrade you could have given to something like the stalker for the endgame.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
May 24 2016 11:45 GMT
#111
So its live? any1 can confirm the map swap as well?
Less is more.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 24 2016 12:07 GMT
#112
On May 24 2016 20:45 insitelol wrote:
So its live? any1 can confirm the map swap as well?

Everything's been live on EU since last night.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 14:11:42
May 26 2016 13:40 GMT
#113
I noticed a bug on king sejong station where units can walk on the edge of the ice near your third and you can also build buildings on it.

[image loading]

the depot on the screenshot is impossible to attack with a + click but I can still select it so maybe you can attack it by rightclicking when you're the opposing player.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37125 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 16:25:21
May 26 2016 16:25 GMT
#114
On May 26 2016 22:40 Charoisaur wrote:
I noticed a bug on king sejong station where units can walk on the edge of the ice near your third and you can also build buildings on it.

[image loading]

the depot on the screenshot is impossible to attack with a + click but I can still select it so maybe you can attack it by rightclicking when you're the opposing player.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/509490-legacy-of-the-void-balance-update-may-23-2016
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