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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting. As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:14 BreAKerTV wrote: I've heard some things about Bboong Bboong from a B-teamer friend of mine... Wonder if he's on the list? I doubt it, since he would probably have been lumped in with Yoda and Gerrard. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:14 BreAKerTV wrote: I've heard some things about Bboong Bboong from a B-teamer friend of mine... Wonder if he's on the list? Wouldn't be terribly surprising. As a Prime player he's already suspect. Given he's the only one who hasn't publicly left the team already that's even more damning | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
No | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Edit: nvm | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
Probably not. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3047 Posts
Couldn't tell from the article itself | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:00 StarGalaxy wrote: Sure i can post the pm: From: NovemberstOrm TL Staff [ 15589 posts | Profile ] Subject: Re: thread closing Date: 3/18/15 00:51 Hi, we the moderators have decided to close this thread do people posting matchfixing accusations, going into offtopic discussion, and with nothing new coming of it, it seems pointless to keep this discussion going, if there is new information revealed a new thread will be created Original Message From StarGalaxy: Hey, why did you close that thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/476033-pinnacle-voids-dark-vs-san-bets-due-to-match-manipulation-concerns?page=54# I provided solid information and i don't see a reason why there shouldn't be a discussion about it. best regards, SG From: NovemberstOrm TL Staff [ 15589 posts | Profile ] Subject: Re: thread closing Date: 3/18/15 01:47 Pinnacle didn't cancel the bet though. Sharing it in the LR might not be good of an idea either(big shitstorm), I don't see anything wrong with posting it in blogs though, i'll see what some of the other moderators think Original Message From StarGalaxy: well i provided new information from todays pro league match in this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/476033-pinnacle-voids-dark-vs-san-bets-due-to-match-manipulation-concerns?page=52#1034 You showed another line with weird movement - esports is a small world and weird movement is not that unusual - and then said "It is very likely that the match between Yoda and Bunny was match fixed today," implying your knowledge from seeing one thing is more than Pinnacle's information (a site who has shown ability and interest in canceling suspicious activity before). I don't think it's fair to say this is enough new information to keep that thread open, it was a long going thread with tons of mud slinging based on incredibly light evidence with accusations that serve to do nothing but tear down possible innocent people - Plexa's example of SangHo is on point. This is not some 1984 scenario. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
So far, for people who have been named, it's been 50-50 player/non-player. | ||
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Tarheels
United States55 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
we don't know yet. most likely some betboys as well. | ||
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RaymondFish
United States42 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:14 RevTiberius wrote: Here's my latest blog entry about this, my point if view is probably a little different from the opinions expressed here in this thread: revtiberius.blogspot.com Over the past half hour or so it has emerged that 11 players (unclear if SC1 or SC2) have been indicted for match fixing. That is very troubling, and I hope the players will be brought to justice. What's equally troubling though, and here I'm singling out Nathanias is that some e-sports "personalities" have already taken to Twitter with inappropriate comments: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1UDT7qd.jpg) I have no sympathy for the alleged cheaters whatsoever, but I'd like Nathanias to get off his high horse here. SC2 personalities in particular - due to their (sometimes undeserved) large followings have a special responsibility to be moderate and even-handed in their public comments. Or they might as well apply for a job at Fox News. Especially when all that's known at this point is that there seems to be a scandal. Already calling for draconian punishment when really there aren't any facts on the table yet in my opinion is character assassination. At least wait until the names of the players are released, and more details about their actual or alleged crimes are given. Therefore, even if only to protect my own image as a competent commentator of the Starcraft scene, Nathanias shouldn't rush to Twitter all that quickly. I kind of wish you could downvote posts on here. lol | ||
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:16 felisconcolori wrote: Doesn't say 11 players. Just 11 people. One of whom we already know isn't a player. (Gerrard never played a match, he's just been a coach.) So far, for people who have been named, it's been 50-50 player/non-player. gerrard has played. 0-2 vs clide HeHe | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
When did that happen? I'd expect Barbie to play before Gerrard! | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:14 RevTiberius wrote: Here's my latest blog entry about this, my point if view is probably a little different from the opinions expressed here in this thread: revtiberius.blogspot.com Over the past half hour or so it has emerged that 11 players (unclear if SC1 or SC2) have been indicted for match fixing. That is very troubling, and I hope the players will be brought to justice. What's equally troubling though, and here I'm singling out Nathanias is that some e-sports "personalities" have already taken to Twitter with inappropriate comments: I have no sympathy for the alleged cheaters whatsoever, but I'd like Nathanias to get off his high horse here. SC2 personalities in particular - due to their (sometimes undeserved) large followings have a special responsibility to be moderate and even-handed in their public comments. Or they might as well apply for a job at Fox News. Especially when all that's known at this point is that there seems to be a scandal. Already calling for draconian punishment when really there aren't any facts on the table yet in my opinion is character assassination. At least wait until the names of the players are released, and more details about their actual or alleged crimes are given. Therefore, even if only to protect my own image as a competent commentator of the Starcraft scene, Nathanias shouldn't rush to Twitter all that quickly. Why are you upset about what Nathanias said? 11 people (don't know how many players) were cheating and damaging the integrity of the scene, and now they're getting their just desserts for breaking the law. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:17 RaymondFish wrote: I kind of wish you could downvote posts on here. lol Im with OP on this one Nate should have kept his mouth shut. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:17 RaymondFish wrote: I kind of wish you could downvote posts on here. lol So true. Wasted 1 Minute of reading it. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
What race was gerrard lol? | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:18 felisconcolori wrote: When did that happen? I'd expect Barbie to play before Gerrard! 2010. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:18 felisconcolori wrote: When did that happen? I'd expect Barbie to play before Gerrard! He played a bit in ShoutCraft IIRC, other than that very little. zerg | ||
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