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YoDa, B4, Gerrard arrested for match-fixing - Page 9

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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
October 19 2015 01:20 GMT
#161
Can we get the pro league game timer back, because honestly not having that is worse than match fixing....
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
October 19 2015 01:20 GMT
#162
On October 19 2015 10:19 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 10:17 Wintex wrote:
On October 19 2015 10:16 felisconcolori wrote:
Doesn't say 11 players. Just 11 people. One of whom we already know isn't a player. (Gerrard never played a match, he's just been a coach.)

So far, for people who have been named, it's been 50-50 player/non-player.

gerrard has played. 0-2 vs clide HeHe

What race was gerrard lol?


Zerg I'm pretty sure
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 19 2015 01:20 GMT
#163
On October 19 2015 10:19 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 10:17 Wintex wrote:
On October 19 2015 10:16 felisconcolori wrote:
Doesn't say 11 players. Just 11 people. One of whom we already know isn't a player. (Gerrard never played a match, he's just been a coach.)

So far, for people who have been named, it's been 50-50 player/non-player.

gerrard has played. 0-2 vs clide HeHe

What race was gerrard lol?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Group_D
The Bomber boy
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 19 2015 01:21 GMT
#164
When it comes to matchfixing, do or do not -- there is no try.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 19 2015 01:23 GMT
#165
On October 19 2015 10:20 duckk wrote:
Can we get the pro league game timer back, because honestly not having that is worse than match fixing....


Watching alot of very high lvl Warcraft 3 at the moment (WCA boosted the scene really hard again) showed me, that you dont need a gametimer.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 01:27:54
October 19 2015 01:23 GMT
#166
Thank God something's finally happening. I'm strangely excited.

On October 19 2015 10:12 Popkiller wrote:
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On October 19 2015 10:10 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On October 19 2015 10:08 Yorkie wrote:
I don't remember when Innovation was involved in a wonky Pinnacle line, but I'd bet a ton of money he's innocent. He may have just been the winner against a player who was involved without knowing about any shady stuff

Inno vs Super. It was a Bo5. The shady line was on the first game for Inno to lose, which happened. Inno then won the next 3 games in a row. This means that Inno could actually have been involved at betting against himself and deliberately throwing first game, then just killing Super and advancing on.

Obviously this is only speculation, and we'll find out the full list in 49 mins. All I am saying is that the evidence around that particular match actually does not look so good for Inno.


this sounds mostly correct but I am almost positive it was a Bo3, and Inno went LWW, and someone bet pretty strongly knowing he would lose the first map.


Yes. Given INno's spotty TvP (and given TvP in general), you really have to wonder how confident he could be in winning two games in a row against Super. Proleague is one thing (especially when you're on a team like Prime which has no chance to win anyway), but Code S is different. One lousy night means you're out of the entire season. Would INno be cocky enough to risk that?

Hell, even if Inno did throw the map, I bet he's not named in this indictment.


Yes. It's hard to imagine any truly relevant players being named. That's just terrible business. Let's suppose that INno really did matchfix, banning Yoda for life gets the same message across to him without killing his career and dragging SKT through dirt and calling every Code S he was part of into question.

KeSPA way too savvy to shoot themselves in the foot like that.

INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
October 19 2015 01:24 GMT
#167
What the... I can't even...
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
October 19 2015 01:24 GMT
#168
Wait gerrard had a hand in sbenu LoL? I wonder if this is limted to just sc2?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 19 2015 01:25 GMT
#169
here we go again on the wild ride
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 19 2015 01:25 GMT
#170
On October 19 2015 10:08 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
Things to be covered by the Changwon Attorney General at 11 o'clock KST

1. explain charges and investigation steps through reported facts
2. Trash who participated in match fixing (exception of Yoda and Gerrard) will only have age and initials (basically name tbh) released
3. Kespa looked into Yoda and Gerrard, which is why it was released earlier from them
4. total of 11 has been charged. (9 arrested and indicted, 2 not arrested but indicted)
5. There has been cases of fixing on Under Over time (will be briefed.)

I... honestly don't know what to say. SC2 seemed to be increasing in popularity in Korea. I don't... why...?


1. 보도자료를 통해 수사과정 및 혐의설명
2. 승부조작가담 인원 전체이름은 표기안되며 성씨와 나이만 나옴
3. 박외식,최병현은 케스파가 확인한사항이라 알고있던것임
4. 총 11명(구속기소 9 불구속기소 2)
5. 언더오버 시간에 대한 승부조작도 포함되어있음(이것도 브리핑예정)

I don't know shit about law but does that mean among the 11, two of them are innocent ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 19 2015 01:25 GMT
#171
This has really been a terrible week.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 19 2015 01:25 GMT
#172
I really wish this whole thing was about Gerrard pulling the plug in the Parting-MKP GSTL game tbh
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 01:28:30
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#173
On October 19 2015 10:24 ZeromuS wrote:
Wait gerrard had a hand in sbenu LoL? I wonder if this is limted to just sc2?


He was coaching them after leaving SC2 Prime.
SBENU sponsored Prime ITENJOY.LoL after latter got into LCK.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#174
On October 19 2015 10:25 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 10:08 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
Things to be covered by the Changwon Attorney General at 11 o'clock KST

1. explain charges and investigation steps through reported facts
2. Trash who participated in match fixing (exception of Yoda and Gerrard) will only have age and initials (basically name tbh) released
3. Kespa looked into Yoda and Gerrard, which is why it was released earlier from them
4. total of 11 has been charged. (9 arrested and indicted, 2 not arrested but indicted)
5. There has been cases of fixing on Under Over time (will be briefed.)

I... honestly don't know what to say. SC2 seemed to be increasing in popularity in Korea. I don't... why...?


1. 보도자료를 통해 수사과정 및 혐의설명
2. 승부조작가담 인원 전체이름은 표기안되며 성씨와 나이만 나옴
3. 박외식,최병현은 케스파가 확인한사항이라 알고있던것임
4. 총 11명(구속기소 9 불구속기소 2)
5. 언더오버 시간에 대한 승부조작도 포함되어있음(이것도 브리핑예정)

I don't know shit about law but does that mean among the 11, two of them are innocent ?

Doesn't it just mean that two of them haven't been proven guilty?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37101 Posts
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#175
MY BODY IS READY!!! I WILL TRANSLATE LIKE MY LIFE FUCKING DEPENDS ON IT!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#176
On October 19 2015 10:24 ZeromuS wrote:
Wait gerrard had a hand in sbenu LoL? I wonder if this is limted to just sc2?

Sbenu LoL was Prime LoL rebranded.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#177
On October 19 2015 10:26 Seeker wrote:
MY BODY IS READY!!! I WILL TRANSLATE LIKE MY LIFE FUCKING DEPENDS ON IT!!!

too late, Wax already did it
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 19 2015 01:26 GMT
#178
On October 19 2015 10:26 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 10:25 Boucot wrote:
On October 19 2015 10:08 DCStarcraftGall wrote:
Things to be covered by the Changwon Attorney General at 11 o'clock KST

1. explain charges and investigation steps through reported facts
2. Trash who participated in match fixing (exception of Yoda and Gerrard) will only have age and initials (basically name tbh) released
3. Kespa looked into Yoda and Gerrard, which is why it was released earlier from them
4. total of 11 has been charged. (9 arrested and indicted, 2 not arrested but indicted)
5. There has been cases of fixing on Under Over time (will be briefed.)

I... honestly don't know what to say. SC2 seemed to be increasing in popularity in Korea. I don't... why...?


1. 보도자료를 통해 수사과정 및 혐의설명
2. 승부조작가담 인원 전체이름은 표기안되며 성씨와 나이만 나옴
3. 박외식,최병현은 케스파가 확인한사항이라 알고있던것임
4. 총 11명(구속기소 9 불구속기소 2)
5. 언더오버 시간에 대한 승부조작도 포함되어있음(이것도 브리핑예정)

I don't know shit about law but does that mean among the 11, two of them are innocent ?

Doesn't it just mean that two of them haven't been proven guilty?

Or two of them were involved to an extent that warranted an indictment/fine but not an arrest.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
RaymondFish
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
October 19 2015 01:27 GMT
#179
On October 19 2015 10:25 Ansibled wrote:
This has really been a terrible week.


It really has been. -.-
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
October 19 2015 01:27 GMT
#180
On October 19 2015 10:23 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 10:20 duckk wrote:
Can we get the pro league game timer back, because honestly not having that is worse than match fixing....


Watching alot of very high lvl Warcraft 3 at the moment (WCA boosted the scene really hard again) showed me, that you dont need a gametimer.


wc3 and sc2 timing is completely different. I can tell the exact time in the game to the second based on day/night cycles and which creep camp the person is at. Good luck doing that in sc2. The timer in sc2 is 1000x more important for viewers.
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