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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 25 2015 16:37 GMT
#121
On June 25 2015 11:24 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Moonlight Madness = mass speedling all ins.....


I was looking forward to it until I remembered ZvZ is a match up
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
June 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#122
dash and terminal seems horrible for zerg , i dont think there's any space wider than 4 forcefields in the map
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 25 2015 17:12 GMT
#123
Is there anyone that plays the game and actually likes backdoors? I don't like any of the new maps to be honest.Terraform would be interesting to try, though.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
June 25 2015 17:14 GMT
#124
On June 26 2015 02:12 Bojas wrote:
Is there anyone that plays the game and actually likes backdoors? I don't like any of the new maps to be honest.Terraform would be interesting to try, though.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind backdoors on one map in seven. If you enjoy it, no problem, otherwise you can veto. But this got ludicrous.
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
June 25 2015 17:43 GMT
#125
Iron Fortress is the fun maps for Zealots and Stargate :3
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
June 25 2015 17:52 GMT
#126
On June 26 2015 02:07 IeZaeL wrote:
dash and terminal seems horrible for zerg , i dont think there's any space wider than 4 forcefields in the map


Overview in here's way outdated, midmap is a little more lenient than that:
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IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
June 25 2015 18:16 GMT
#127
You dont know which version blizzard received, you should ask the dude who sent the map files to psione.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 25 2015 18:26 GMT
#128
Looking forward to Bridgehead. Reminds me of those old vanilla SC1 multiplayer maps.
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Pain411
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany9 Posts
June 25 2015 18:39 GMT
#129
Iron Fortress q.q
Let's bring back Habitation Station, Overgrowth or King Sejong Station
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
June 25 2015 23:51 GMT
#130
On June 26 2015 01:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2015 11:24 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Moonlight Madness = mass speedling all ins.....


I was looking forward to it until I remembered ZvZ is a match up


What would be so wrong with completely walling off your forward natural, then taking the backdoor third and expanding that way? Then if they do any early type of speedling build they either have to kill the wall at your front nat or kill one of the backdoor rocks (or two if you knock down your tower)
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 25 2015 23:55 GMT
#131
You mean... tailor your builds for the map? Preposterous!
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 26 2015 00:13 GMT
#132
On June 26 2015 08:51 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 01:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 25 2015 11:24 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Moonlight Madness = mass speedling all ins.....


I was looking forward to it until I remembered ZvZ is a match up


What would be so wrong with completely walling off your forward natural, then taking the backdoor third and expanding that way? Then if they do any early type of speedling build they either have to kill the wall at your front nat or kill one of the backdoor rocks (or two if you knock down your tower)

you're not going to be able to wall the natural before a speedling allin hits
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 26 2015 00:47 GMT
#133
Oh the headline says WCS Season 3 Map Pool. Is it not ladder map pool too?
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
June 26 2015 01:12 GMT
#134
On June 26 2015 09:47 Mozdk wrote:
Oh the headline says WCS Season 3 Map Pool. Is it not ladder map pool too?

Ladder map pool is the same as WCS map pool since 2013, I think.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
June 26 2015 01:38 GMT
#135
On June 26 2015 09:13 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:51 SidianTheBard wrote:
On June 26 2015 01:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 25 2015 11:24 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Moonlight Madness = mass speedling all ins.....


I was looking forward to it until I remembered ZvZ is a match up


What would be so wrong with completely walling off your forward natural, then taking the backdoor third and expanding that way? Then if they do any early type of speedling build they either have to kill the wall at your front nat or kill one of the backdoor rocks (or two if you knock down your tower)

you're not going to be able to wall the natural before a speedling allin hits


Insert any other map ever? To be fair the forward natural on this is smaller then most other naturals in the game, only 8x wide compared to most 9 or 10x. I guess they could run through your natural all the way into your main then through the backdoor, but now they are stuck in the backdoor because they can't get out without breaking down rocks, but now you can break down your rock tower for safety if needed.

Just would prefer people to play games on it first before calling certain strats imba. :\
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
June 26 2015 02:39 GMT
#136
LOL - its the season of destructible rocks into your main or natural base!!
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ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
June 26 2015 03:25 GMT
#137
Can we please stop with the backdoor expansions? I hate them so so much.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 08:31:17
June 26 2015 03:49 GMT
#138
omg wow just played a game on bridgehead, and that map went first to worst for me. At first I love the aesthetic of the map looks great but holy shit the rocks at the ramp to the main wtf really smh, and the rocks the to back why? Just wtf, would be fine if no rock to the nat but come on.

will post more about the rest of the map later.
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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
June 26 2015 04:23 GMT
#139
why do so many people hate backdoors in general? just wondering.
vibeo gane,
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
June 26 2015 08:29 GMT
#140
On June 26 2015 13:23 -NegativeZero- wrote:
why do so many people hate backdoors in general? just wondering.


At least for me I'm not a fan of 2 entrances to your main or nat, it makes defending way more difficult and unnecessary then it should be. Take Expedition Lost you have to watch out for allin in 2 places in your main and are to an extent forced to take the base below your main for fear of back stabs. This is just me but I find it makes for silly unnecessary game play.

That being said I can kinda understand why its added because the same old maps (daybreak, overgrowth) can become very boring and lead to turtle game, and maps with backdoors make this very difficult. again this is just my opinion or how I feel about back doors. Others might have better reason but this is just me.
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