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Hello,
Lately, this game brings out the absolute worst in me. I have faced countless toxic players in the last month or so and it has rubbed off on me to the point where I have become as belligerent and irritable as I thought they were.
Losing makes me angry, and losing to a cheese infuriates me even more. I know that if I "played better" and "scouted better" I could have dealt with it but even recognizing that, I'm still angry.
Why SC? What is it about this game that makes me so freaking hostile? I can't be the only one who is struggling with this. I would love help, advice, any sort of suggestion as to how you all deal with frustration.
I tell myself, "It's just a game" but that doesn't matter. Winning is better than losing. Losing means you're inferior at SC2. I can't get out of that mindset. I try to think "Every loss is an opportunity to learn" but the frustration (and my perceived issues with balance) blow that concept out of the water.
It's me. I know it's me. I'm a nice person in real life but in SC2 I have become an asshole. I know it's my fault.
I don't want to be an asshole. I don't want to be angry over something as stupid as this game. I know it's me but I know I can't be the only one. I'm asking for your advice.
Thanks.
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take a day off from laddering, do something outside with your friends and then start tmr again with a fresh mindset
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I play unranked protoss and open up the big book of protoss bullshit.
Makes me feel much better
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United States4883 Posts
This is why I quit SC2 a few months ago :p.
The best thing I can say is that Starcraft is an intensely difficult and competitive experience; some people can handle that well, others can't. The most important part of playing any game is to have fun. When I quit SC2, it was because playing the game started to feel like a chore, and I didn't feel like I was making any progress. I kept getting frustrated more and more, and no matter how much I tried to change my mindset, I could not actually have fun anymore, and so I quit. Uninstalled.
Now, to be fair, my reaction was a little bit drastic. My advice is to just go play some other games for a while, relax, and start having fun with your free time again. I played a lot of League and free Steam games (MMOs and ARPGs are excellent at reducing stress), and I think it's been a positive experience. In fact, I think I've actually gained more skill in SC2 from playing other games; my micro is much much better now that I've played a decent amount of MOBAs.
Good luck, I hope you can reduce the stress of playing!
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GG every game, even if it's just to deny your opponent the satisfaction of your rage.
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Why do you care so much that you lose? Just play. Keep playing and keep improving. Don't be a rage quitter.
Also, it's okay to get angry. It's a game so you can use the opportunity to release your aggressive energy on other people in a benign way. If your anger is getting in the way of you winning though, then use some breathing techniques and focus on what you need to do to win.
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I used to rage before, when I still picked race, a long, long time ago.
Now, I just copy things that feel like bullshit and notice it's not as bullshit as it seems.
Just remember it's a game and you are playing to relax, no reason to get angry over anything.
Another comment that worked for a clanmate of mine: nobody gives a single fuck about your ladder rank/winrate other that you.
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On May 26 2015 05:35 Mjolnir wrote:
Hello,
Lately, this game brings out the absolute worst in me. I have faced countless toxic players in the last month or so and it has rubbed off on me to the point where I have become as belligerent and irritable as I thought they were.
Losing makes me angry, and losing to a cheese infuriates me even more. I know that if I "played better" and "scouted better" I could have dealt with it but even recognizing that, I'm still angry.
Why SC? What is it about this game that makes me so freaking hostile? I can't be the only one who is struggling with this. I would love help, advice, any sort of suggestion as to how you all deal with frustration.
I tell myself, "It's just a game" but that doesn't matter. Winning is better than losing. Losing means you're inferior at SC2. I can't get out of that mindset. I try to think "Every loss is an opportunity to learn" but the frustration (and my perceived issues with balance) blow that concept out of the water.
It's me. I know it's me. I'm a nice person in real life but in SC2 I have become an asshole. I know it's my fault.
I don't want to be an asshole. I don't want to be angry over something as stupid as this game. I know it's me but I know I can't be the only one. I'm asking for your advice.
Thanks.
honestly? Play a different game. RTS's and MOBA's once the game starts to piss you off, you'll never enjoy playing again
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Some additional comment that came up:
relax, relax. Try another race if you feel obsessed with improvement. Find a nice clan or a couple of buddies, there's plenty here on TL (pm me if you're playing on EU!). We can play some 2v2's or practice games.
just.relax.have fun!
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I think its about what you expect from the game and from playing it. If you play the game to win then you will be angry if you lose because you just wasted your time. If you play the game to become good at it then loosing is a positive thing as it teaches you a valuable lesson.
I myself play because I like RTS games in general. Playing a long game makes me happy no matter whether I lose or win. You just have to figure out what the reason is why you play. If you want to play because you enjoy the game then there is no reason to be angry, ever. Just keep that in mind and maybe it might help you.
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go unranked and burrow roach rush a terran
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right. listen up mate. You could go over to neuros stream and talk about cognitive bollox for ages (love ya neuro if ya readin) but its just a fuckin game mate. If you get angry over losing at something which is largely anonymous like this then you might have to consider how it affects ur real life, if its a lot then im sorry but u just gotta stop playing. otherwise, like i said, its a game and it matters to no one ANYWHERE or EVER that you even play this stupid game. This reaction exists only with you. im 35 years old, and i used to think leveling up games and finishing them matters more than the degrees and work i was doin . . . its only now i see it as total time wasted and opportunities missed. Its not helped by watching twitch either, seeing people claim to rake in thousands of pounds and making a career out of playing games, im waiting for this bubble to quickly burst though, but i dont want it to.
so what do you do. Play the game. Play the game more but everytime u hit that start button play some real good music and have a stream playing on second monitor. just build only workers for 5 games in a row and see if u can beat ur score. I cant really say anything, no one can. almost as soon as i post someone will fucking try to counter things ive said when mate, trust me, ive seen just how retarded it can get when the game is more than the real shit happening around you (mweeehh but whats real some smart ass will chime). . playing video games for 99% of all people is a time sink and ur personal preffered method of entertainment. if its gettin u mad bro, stop, take up something else. add me to contacts and well just talk and play the game at same time, have a laugh with it rather than treating like something its not. i lose nothing when i lose, i gain nothing when i win. personally i love playing the game doesnt matter how shit/good i am, i love sitting down and playing a few hrs of games after doing 80+ hrs of work a week
sc2 gives me that mind work out i crave. theres no other game like it! Its a game you really have to learn to play and practice. Thinking some shit up while at work and then trying it when i get home . . .good times
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You realize it's just a game and you move on. Being competitive and upset that you lost is fine, but watching replays and learning from your mistakes is how you get better. It's not a tournament setting, you can literally just click on "Find Match" again and try one more time... no one is judging you but yourself, nobody cares if you win or not but yourself. If you got cheesed, it's even easier, typically it's a matter of "oh ok, I didn't see that coming and there was literally nothing I could've done after I missed that X Y and Z he was doing"
No sense in getting bent out of shape. Every loss is a chance to improve, not a chance to break your keyboard in half lol Nobody builds character and improves when all they're doing is winning every game with no challenge.
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I think it's a common problem, I suggest learning some aggressive 1 or 2 base timings against each matchup, which lets you dictate the pace of the game, but would also give you enough units to defend. If your push fails and you lose because you fall behind, then you don't feel so bad. If you went 3 base and lose to a 1 base build you will get annoyed.
I used to think that 3 base macro builds are best since you can just make more units and outnumber your opponent. However, I have since realised that aggressive builds are better since they force you to micro and macro and transition on the fly, instead of a preplanned build order. Builds like 10 pool and 2 rax, are very good for improving because you will improve unit control and multitasking, but can still have transitions. Actual macro means doing it whilst pressuring opponent and outmultitasking them. Play with the aim of improving instead of winning.
If you want to play standard, always keep in mind the biggest threats that can hit during the current time, if you're expecting DT at 7.30 every game, then even if you lose to it, it doesn't feel as bad than to lose to it out of the blue.
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Grow up. It sounds harsh, but that's the reality of it. It's just a game, and you need to understand that. You *are* inferior to a BUTTLOAD of other players and you will, most likely, stay that way forever. Youi can't win everything and you need to accept that.
Hell, back in BroodWar Flash was the most dominant force, by far, in an over decade long history of the game and during that time he was winning "only" 75% games he played. It shouldn't matter if you lose or win, just take pleasure in the fact you are slightly improving over time. If you can't than switch to a game that won't change the person you think you are.
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On May 26 2015 06:35 StatixEx wrote:
right. listen up mate. You could go over to neuros stream and talk about cognitive bollox for ages (love ya neuro if ya readin) but its just a fuckin game mate. If you get angry over losing at something which is largely anonymous like this then you might have to consider how it affects ur real life, if its a lot then im sorry but u just gotta stop playing. otherwise, like i said, its a game and it matters to no one ANYWHERE or EVER that you even play this stupid game. This reaction exists only with you. im 35 years old, and i used to think leveling up games and finishing them matters more than the degrees and work i was doin . . . its only now i see it as total time wasted and opportunities missed. Its not helped by watching twitch either, seeing people claim to rake in thousands of pounds and making a career out of playing games, im waiting for this bubble to quickly burst though, but i dont want it to.
so what do you do. Play the game. Play the game more but everytime u hit that start button play some real good music and have a stream playing on second monitor. just build only workers for 5 games in a row and see if u can beat ur score. I cant really say anything, no one can. almost as soon as i post someone will fucking try to counter things ive said when mate, trust me, ive seen just how retarded it can get when the game is more than the real shit happening around you (mweeehh but whats real some smart ass will chime). . playing video games for 99% of all people is a time sink and ur personal preffered method of entertainment. if its gettin u mad bro, stop, take up something else. add me to contacts and well just talk and play the game at same time, have a laugh with it rather than treating like something its not. i lose nothing when i lose, i gain nothing when i win. personally i love playing the game doesnt matter how shit/good i am, i love sitting down and playing a few hrs of games after doing 80+ hrs of work a week
sc2 gives me that mind work out i crave. theres no other game like it! Its a game you really have to learn to play and practice. Thinking some shit up while at work and then trying it when i get home . . .good times
I don't think that's the right approach for a game like sc2. I personally haven't played much ladder because of the time requirement, but I play with the aim of improving multitasking, and the skill of creating a mental checklist and planning the next few steps is transferable to many things in real life especially and jobs where time management and efficiency is important.
I read somewhere that a lot of Korean ex sc2 pros are headhunted by financial companies because their analytical skills are incredible. Other games like LoL and CS.GO do seem like a waste of time to me because twitch reflexes do not really help for real life.
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Italy12246 Posts
Listen to Disney music while playing. I'm serious, you can't be angry while listening to Disney music.
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To those who say it's just a game. Do you really know what you're saying? The guy is ask help to reduce anger, being a competitive person and all I know for a fact anyone who tells me it's just game I tell them this: how exactly does saying something I already know reduce anger? Fact is if you're going to tell someone it's just a game, I personally don't think you should comment in this thread period. It is terrible advice it will never help anyone. As for anger issues play arcade, like try some UMS or play custom games or team games. I know playing with friends helps reduce the competitive feel.
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the ultimate answer to reduce your rage is, maru the cat videos.
But there is nothing wrong with being angry about a loss. Use that anger in a productive way though and don't use that energy to blame others for not doing well.
The latter is easier of course and if you don't have a friend that can handle you venting your anger, then you just grab the next thing, usually your opponent who will just put more oil in the fire. That way you train yourself to already prepare for a negative response, which will result in a more negative mind set going into it.
Best thing you could do is play with friends or against friends, that don't blame others. This will change your mindset to a more positive view again. There are other ways as well, break, single player game, games that give you encouragement. Games that prevent you from easily being negative towards your opponent. Or just muting chat from the beginning.
I block the emotes in hearthstones for example, because the RNG can really enrage me sometimes.
In general distance can help cure your attitude. If you want to continue playing Sc2, muting your opponent from the start might be enough. Or after a harsch loss, watching some funny videos.
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