i don't understand how this is a problem tbh. i get mad when i lose, sometimes extremely mad and BM my opponent, but then i queue up for my next game and instantly don't care about the last one. you just keep playing? and if you start your next game and you're still mad and thinking about the last one then stop playing starcraft and do something else
i feel like people dance around the obvious basic advice that you shouldn't be playing if you're not enjoying it and you're not making money off of it. is it taboo to just say "stop playing starcraft if you're that upset"? it's not like starcraft is a necessary life skill for anyone who's not a progamer, it's recreation. if i'm watching a new TV show and it sucks i'm not going to keep on watching 30 more episodes and complaining about how much it sucks...
often i feel the problem isn't rage so much as it is people being psychologically addicted to playing the game and not having other hobbies to turn to. just do something else, it shouldn't be so intensely upsetting if starcraft isn't fun for a while
I stick to simpler tasks i know i can do at a time and i try to complete them.
Things that i've worked on this week. 10 games over 270 apm. 30 different control groups made on workers before starting my natural hatchery. Scout the gas timing every time. Put a timer up to hit injects.
Sounds like you should discard your rules (i.e. you shouldn't cheese, etc) and reevaluate your rules and make new ones. If you think like that like a lot of people do, you'll be handicapping yourself. For example, you won't proxy hatch because you think it's unhonorable or whatever, but really, if all you care about is the win, why not try to win!
I think being frustrated that you lost is healthy. But raging just doesn't help anything. It doesn't help you improve, it won't help your next ladder game so what is the point of going nuts and raging?
Losing a 1v1 game of SC2 is ego destroying. Iv'e played this game for 5 years and still get shit on every ladder session :D
On May 26 2015 08:51 Odowan Paleolithic wrote: Right now my remedy is to grab a p90 and blow some heads off or gank a young scanning character in EVE Wspace. Then I can come back laddering.
Eve is so much worse than SC2 when it comes to raging when losing.....
When I lost my shiny nullified cloaky proteus I just laughed. Since the guy was so lucky I landed next to him. I understand the loss. There is much less manner muling in that sense.
In sc2 it's annoying that I know I should have done something then kept thinking about it.
To get good? That's a bad reason to play SC2, in my opinion. Nobody is good. Unless you've won a GSL or are in at least Code-A, you're no good. Better opponents can still demolish you with troll builds that shouldn't work, etc... etc...
I don't mean that competition is pointless or bad... but playing "to get good" is too vaguely defined. How can you celebrate success? You get Masters - but then you aren't GM. You get GM - but then you aren't top of the ladder. You get top of the ladder - but then you haven't won any tournaments. You win some tournaments - but those didn't have any stiff Korean competition. You move to Korea - but you can't compete and you return home.
Playing to win will inevitably disappoint you. But learning to compete with humility, even with bm exploding all around you, is probably an important virtue to cultivate.
Personal development through healthy competition (learning to win and lose gracefully, learning to teach lesser players, learning to handle bm calmly, etc...) is a good reason to play SC2.
Play to get better at the game, play because you enjoy the game, play around with new strategies and perfect old ones, but play most of all to refine and strengthen your own character. That's my take, anyway.
Yesterday I lost a few games. But in one of those games, I managed to fly a single hunter-seekered muta back into his flock of ravens. Didn't kill them, but hey. Was a good night
My point being: you might want to try getting satisfaction out of things other then winning.
Also, what helped me out (not so much with anger, more with ladder anxiety): talk to your opponent a bit. He might like the same music, or live next door, or have a pet hamster. Very hard to get angry with people that have hamsters.
For me, I feel that knowing why you lost can really help reduce the rage. For instance, whenever I spent resources worse than my opponent (i.e. more banked resources) I would almost always lose. Knowing that it was something I did, and also knowing that it was something I could improve on with practice, made playing after losing much more bearable --> If I wanted to win, I just had to focus on X (spending resources better).
I went from never playing terran before to high diamond in 5 months' time without raging or hating the game
Go outside and tell your friends and family that you love them and that you want them to help you detach from the time you spend playing games. This emotional commitment is unhealthy.
I also think if you lose two games in a row (or even just one), its perhaps better to stop playing for the day because the anger and frustration can escalate especially when your playing the next games in tilt mode.
The other thing is that SC2 is not a logical game. Doesn't matter if you have 6 bases with a giant eco behind you.. still going to lose when your entire army gets bopped (things snowball out of control so fast in so many situations). This is my personal experience but SC2 seems to reward aggressive alot more than SC:BW especially on ladder. It means that instead of playing "standard" one should try to make life as difficult as they can to their opponent. This way you feel less frustrated knowing just how much annoyance ones caused even in defeat.
Unlike everyone other poster here it seems, I don't think the issue here is with the way you approach sc2.
There are similar phenomena in essentially any competitive game. be it computer games, board games or sports. I have heard several other people say (from first hand experience) that raging is not about the game, it is about frustration of some other part in your life that you struggle with. Solve or come to terms with your issues --> less rage. I have felt the same myself as well: if I have a bad day (or week, or month) at work, I tend to be less mannered when I do sports compared to when I'm on a roll at work.
So while maybe some of the advice here may help you dampen the symptom (the in-game rage), I think you need to come to terms with the real life struggles you may go through before you can truly take a loss in sc2 in a comfortable way.
Apologies for doing the internet psychologist. It is very rarely appreciated to be analysed by a random poster on internet, specially not if it happens to be accurate. I just have noticed how true this is in the cases I have come in contact with, so maybe it'll help you understand what is going on with you a bit more. If I am all wrong and it is really just about how you approach the game, then just man up and be nice to people, wth man...
I think it's in nature of SC2 because of how most games unfold. It's up up and then a sudden down.
Up = you build, you play seriously, you try to play flawlessly for X minutes Down = you insta-loss to something crappy
Imagine it like this, you work for days for something, putting your mind to %110, and then somebody comes and throws it out of window. Then you press play again button hastily just to live that experience again.
Some people just realize and accept this nature of the game, and play that way. They expect to lose however good they are playing from their perspective. It's like poker, your hand might be good but you can't be sure if opponent's better.
Some people play like they don't care. They pick a build and try to execute it without thinking much in the progress. Since the goal is to just practice the build, they don't feel frustration after losing.
For myself I'm a very lazy person. Therefore if I work hard for something, my effort is more valuable in my eyes than tryhard people's. So 1 silly game of SC2 is enough for me to quit game for months.
On May 26 2015 17:41 ETisME wrote: I normally just queue up another game. It forces me to refresh my mind.
If I keep losing non stop then I just get depressed rather than rage
The more I lose the more I queue up another game. When I am on a winning-streak I play like 4-5 games, when I am on a losing-streak I play like 15 games... hoping that it gets better but eventually losing to players two leagues below mine.
If you face a lot of people who rage at you, just laugh at it! Well, not ingame probably because it will make them rage even more =). But just laugh because they get so angry in a computergame (a game!) that they have to type it. Also know, when they are typing, they don't micro/inject/chrono/mule/scan/macro/.....
When I get angry I watch the replay and try to learn why I lost or what made me rage (winning never made someone angry) so when i face that issue again (that made me rage) i'll know how to handle it ingame so it won't make me lose/rage. If it wasn't gameplay that made me rage/angry but what the opponent said then just start muting people. Not seeing them rage makes you relax aswell!
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I just have noticed how true this is in the cases I have come in contact with, so maybe it'll help you understand what is going on with you a bit more. If I am all wrong and it is really just about how you approach the game, then just man up and be nice to people, wth man...
