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On May 26 2015 06:57 Rukis wrote: To those who say it's just a game. Do you really know what you're saying? The guy is ask help to reduce anger, being a competitive person and all I know for a fact anyone who tells me it's just game I tell them this: how exactly does saying something I already know reduce anger? Fact is if you're going to tell someone it's just a game, I personally don't think you should comment in this thread period. It is terrible advice it will never help anyone. As for anger issues play arcade, like try some UMS or play custom games or team games. I know playing with friends helps reduce the competitive feel. Agreed. Sc2 isn't just a game. It's the greatest e-sport to ever be made, ever. It's a way of life. The energy I get from it fuels my desire to live.
To the OP, you got the hardest part down. The introspection. Many people will never admit what you have to yourself. How to cure rage is different for each individual. For me, it's off racing. Also, consider what NeuroZerg calls "moral victories." Instead of concentrating on winnng, focus on one aspect of your game play. No energy on queens up to 10 min, 50 workers by 8 min etc.
gl hf homie
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Why is it a kind of rage inducing game in general?
Because it's competitive, in competitive things, people become emotionally invested into it, which is why strong feelings are involved with winning and losing. Notice how winning in Starcraft is a truly exhilarating experience, you take a deep breath and pat yourself on the back, when you lose it hurts because you tried hard to win, and losing sucks.
Its perfectly natural to be mad, let the rage flow through your veins, but understand that after you allow yourself a little 5 minutes of being butt hurt, understand that even at the pro KR GM level ladder, the very best players in the world lose about 40-45% of their games.
Your hero, be it Maru or Life or Parting, they lose, kind of alot.
So don't take it so seriously, if they lose, your definitely going to lose, it's the only thing that makes Starcraft fun.
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I can relate to you OP.
So after a very long hiatus, I decided to start playing SC2 again. I went through the campaign (was disappointing overall), and I've been fooling around, doing stupid stuff like worker rushing..... I just finished a game against (TvP) that left a very, very sour taste in my mouth though. My opponent didn't make any serious attempt to stop my scout at all, I had a scout for the entire early game so I knew he went for a cyber core and single gas into robo, with a very delayed 2nd gas, and with a very low unit count, so I suspected he was going to expand (the map has a backdoor expansion). He also didn't scout me at all, which I thought was incredibly odd..... I opened with a factory with my first 100 gas, with the intention to push out with 3 tanks, 1 medivac and 8-10 marines to poke at his front while I expanded myself. Immediately after getting my 2nd CC going, I popped down 3 more barracks.
I get just outside his base and suddenly there are DT's in the back of my base. No biggie, I figure. I've got a couple of units, I'll sacrifice some SCV's as a wall between my units in my base in order to give myself some time to cripple him in his base (I was seconds from attacking his ramp with my tanks and he'd have nothing there to really fight against me).
Nope. After looking at the replay, I managed to lose over 20 scv's to his 4 DT's, and only killed one of them in the scan. I actually had a 30 supply advantage prior to this. The problem was that it was all workers and an army that was now sitting outside his base.
I probably could have still won it, because I was crawling into his base with that small army of mine (he barely put up a fight to it), and I did have scans available for me to use to kill any DT's he'd throw at my army, plus I still had an overall supply lead (and terran mules are imba for getting an economy back running), but honestly, that whole situation annoyed me so much that I just left. Had the guy dropped DT's into my base 30 seconds earlier, my army would have been at home and able to do something, and had it happened 30 seconds later, I would have had enough reinforcements in my base to do something about it, but the timing was impeccable, and he literally didn't even scout what I was doing to know that.
I've played over a hundred games over the last few weeks, which is a lot for me, and this completely sapped any desire to keep playing I had.
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Stop watching bm sc2 streamers. Do not feed into trolls, ignore the bm and if you must reply always stay kind and sincere. You basically just gotta treat them like children. They're always right... just say "ok" "huh" maybe an "alright" or even "gg" just don't really pay them any attention.
For yourself its fine not to say "gg" and just quit the game. If you choose not to "gg" you should probably enable only allows friends to chat. People love to message you after games just to say "gg". I am not going to lie this is probably what makes me the angriest, I don't show it though.
Call me all the racist names you want, tell me how bad I am, tell me how much better than me you are... do your worst... I am ready to die for mine.
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One-base Carrier. It's as awful/awesome as it sounds. No, actually, it's even better. It's currently the only build I do .
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On May 26 2015 06:55 Teoita wrote: Listen to Disney music while playing. I'm serious, you can't be angry while listening to Disney music. But then you'll just get conditioned to have uncontrollable rage when you visit Disney World.
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On May 26 2015 08:15 argonautdice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 06:55 Teoita wrote: Listen to Disney music while playing. I'm serious, you can't be angry while listening to Disney music. But then you'll just get conditioned to have uncontrollable rage when you visit Disney World.
I am just thinking of the Lion King: Caaaaaaaan you feeeeeeeeel the raaaaaaage tonight? :D
Well dealing with anger might become a big problem. I also get angry sometimes, mostly when I get cheesed and don't react properly or when I just make silly mistakes. The trick is to realize that moment where the anger rises. Right at that point you need to tell yourself to calm down and that it's just a game. Like almost everything in life, anger control needs to be trained. Just try to focus.
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Right now my remedy is to grab a p90 and blow some heads off or gank a young scanning character in EVE Wspace. Then I can come back laddering.
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On May 26 2015 08:51 Odowan Paleolithic wrote: Right now my remedy is to grab a p90 and blow some heads off or gank a young scanning character in EVE Wspace. Then I can come back laddering.
Eve is so much worse than SC2 when it comes to raging when losing.....
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you're playing to rank up, not for enjoyment
play for enjoyment, if you feel like playng sc2 then play, dbut dont grind for rank.. you're not apro
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Honestly, the pressure is hard to take. I'm not sure how best to handle the high-pressure, but you can reduce the pressure.
May I recommend:
1 - Stop watching the pro scene, Stop watching (twitch) streams
Why spend all your time comparing yourself to the best in the world? They are modern day monks who live in training houses and have 300 apm and a zoo of RSI problems. You will never be them, why stress yourself out about not living up to those standards?
This also forces you to figure out all your own strategies/solutions, or ask real people in chat/over skype, which is far more valuable and pleasant.
2 - Start playing 2v2 with a mic and a friend, even if you headhunt the friend from ladder games.
Friends are good. 2v2 has probably a higher skillcap than 1v1, the scene is just tiny. You have to be prepared for cheese, but laugh it off and make sure your partner is fun to talk to while you play. Aim to have fun. Teamgames are just more fun.
It's more fun to pull off a practiced, ridiculous carrier play in 2v2 than to correctly execute a blink stalker timing in PvZ that you saw in GSL. That shit is hard - the feeling when you pull it together into a semi-viable build together is priceless.
3 - Play unranked.
Until you're a progamer, you're not actually competing. You're training/learning. If you're below high masters/GM, there's no good reason to play ranked except pride, and pride over what? Being able to beat guys who mostly suck (like me)? What are you competing for, the standing to go from scrub to greater scrub?
I hit low masters once, and I still had no idea what I was doing. I just did it better than some other scrubs. We're still scrubs.
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I played about 30-50 games a day for 5 months and eventually became numb. Not sure if that helps though.
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Play BW instead so you realize how much a bigger scrub you are at that game and don't feel as bad.
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I look at it this way. Losses are the only way we are able to see if our plans are working or if we need to go back to the drawing board. NASA launched hundreds of failures and SpaceX has had its setbacks, its human nature to fail. Its how quickly we stand back up that makes us strong. We weren't born knowing how to walk and talk but with help and a lot of failure, we learn. Starcraft is the same way instead of getting angry at losses just use them as a springboard to further ourselves. Please if you ever get mad at starcraft, go outside, read a book or just walk away for a day or so.
please add me on B.net i'd love to play a best of 10 with you. IGN Delta # 1710 for HotS. And for LotV I'm delta #236
anyone looking to play more just message me I'm on most mid-day or late night
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If I'm super pissed at ZvT for a while I'll go T. To be a bit of a troll, I definitely feel that I win more undeserved games with T than with Z (Hi widowmines & all ins) but at the same time I can just as easily be steamrolled by the Zerg.
Visit the other side of the fence to realize that the grass isn't necessarily that much greener helps me when I'm frustrated for a while..
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Play with your cat next to you.
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stuff your face with pizza and shoot up some heroin
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How to fix tilt and companion article creating the head-space to minimize it in the first place.
1v1's brutal and frustrating. The two previous articles were the strategies that worked for me. All I can add is to take breaks in your play and go listen to some music, read a book, drink some tea. I find unplugging from a computer activity to be most rejuvenating.
I'm get most frustrated at racial asymetrical advantages (particularly race X hit a map-strategy-matchup timeframe where his army is leagues ahead of mine and does game-ending or crippling damage. I force myself to think about the pro-gamers that succeed despite those disadvantages. I'm not matching up against a progamer, not even close, and there's always an opportunity to get better at mimicking what works for them into a closer match or a win.
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On May 26 2015 09:47 stuchiu wrote: I played about 30-50 games a day for 5 months and eventually became numb. Not sure if that helps though.
This is the only way to do it really. It's a hit to the ego to lose constantly. Eventually you just won't have an ego any more. It'll be beaten out of you at some point.
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