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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 09 2015 06:48 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:46 Holdenintherye wrote:On February 09 2015 06:21 xdevilx2 wrote:
Richard Lewis, the true saviour of esports Oh boy. When was the last time he delivered? Aren't we still waiting for something from him?
He wrote a very good article on matchfixing in CS:GO if I recall correctly. This is something I'd definitely trust him on.
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On February 09 2015 06:48 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:45 TheDwf wrote:On February 09 2015 06:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 09 2015 06:37 Aeromi wrote:On February 09 2015 06:37 Clonester wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. I think the WCS handbook prevents sponsors from gambling, alcohol/cigarettes, and adult entertainment industries. The betting sites sponsored the tournament, and secretly. If they tried to outright sponsor their own events, Blizzard would shut that down. In before Aeromi.... :> Aeromi, I'm curious, what are you gonna do with your time once/if the handbook gets released? Prepare the campaign for WCS 2016 2014 : French stream 2015 : Handbook/schedule/location 2016 : ?
2016 : Game design that allows MKC to win tournaments.
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On February 09 2015 06:48 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:46 Holdenintherye wrote:Richard Lewis, the true saviour of esports Oh boy. When was the last time he delivered? Aren't we still waiting for something from him?
The NASL article I think
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On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good.
Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team
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On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team
Or you could just not bother? I am not bothering. It has no bearing on the issue at hand.
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On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team
A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade
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On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade
Probably a good idea to not name any names until there is at least a preponderance of evidence against them...will only do more harm than good before then.
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On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade
In retrospect a google search makes more sense than opening up liquipedia and searching each terran in challenger
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On February 09 2015 07:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade Probably a good idea to not name any names until there is at least a preponderance of evidence against them...will only do more harm than good before then.
Implicating Kas has nothing to do with this discussion. The situation revolves around Korean players only.
I am surprised Cascade is allowed to sponsor a SC2 team, when its clearly against the handbook (going by 2014 handbook of course *ahem* *glances at Aeromi*) for gambling sites to sponsor a team.
I didn't even know Cascade's sponsor is affiliated with gambling.
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your Country52798 Posts
On February 09 2015 07:06 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade In retrospect a google search makes more sense than opening up liquipedia and searching each terran in challenger
Personally, I just searched for 170 in his post history, found it in 5 seconds.
I don't think Kas is match-fixing though, and it's not relevant to the topic of this thread IMO.
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On February 09 2015 07:12 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 07:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade Probably a good idea to not name any names until there is at least a preponderance of evidence against them...will only do more harm than good before then. Implicating Kas has nothing to do with this discussion. The situation revolves around Korean players only. I am surprised Cascade is allowed to sponsor a SC2 team, when its clearly against the handbook (going by 2014 handbook of course *ahem* *glances at Aeromi*) for gambling sites to sponsor a team. I didn't even know Cascade's sponsor is affiliated with gambling.
Winamax is a poker and betting website and it has been sponsoring Millenium for ever and Fnatic for the last 18 months. I guess as long as you can't bet on esport it's ok.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2015 06:48 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:46 Holdenintherye wrote:Richard Lewis, the true saviour of esports Oh boy. When was the last time he delivered? Aren't we still waiting for something from him?
He's always delivered?
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Seeing as the whole "Kas" thing started when somebody posted their own personal suspicious of him because he "didn't go above 170 supply" in a tournament and signed with a team that was sponsored by a betting website, and isn't based on any actual evidence, I think it's highly inappropriate. It'll only lead to more bad than good. If he is somehow involved in this, then that information will come out in due time.
Olivia already has said she knows who the alleged players are, and has sent that information to Richard Lewis. No need to jump the gun and make damaging accusations.
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On February 09 2015 07:17 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 07:12 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On February 09 2015 07:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:On February 09 2015 07:02 Stress wrote:On February 09 2015 06:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 09 2015 06:36 playa wrote:On February 09 2015 06:34 Quakie wrote:On February 09 2015 06:31 playa wrote:
Yeah, well maybe people can realize it's also not such a good thing for a betting site to sponsor a team, especially when their newest recruit flat out refused to make units. Who are you referring to here? I've already brought it up on here. I'll just say it was a WCS game and a Terran who refused to ever go above 170 supply and then he joined a team sponsored by a betting site, a few days later. When it looks like match fixing and then that happens, whether clean or not, it doesn't look good. Why you gotta make me work for it. Now I have to check all the wcs games for a terran who just joined a team A quick google search showed he was referring to Kas. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451187-kas-joins-team-cascade Probably a good idea to not name any names until there is at least a preponderance of evidence against them...will only do more harm than good before then. Implicating Kas has nothing to do with this discussion. The situation revolves around Korean players only. I am surprised Cascade is allowed to sponsor a SC2 team, when its clearly against the handbook (going by 2014 handbook of course *ahem* *glances at Aeromi*) for gambling sites to sponsor a team. I didn't even know Cascade's sponsor is affiliated with gambling. Winamax is a poker and betting website and it has been sponsoring Millenium for ever and Fnatic for the last 18 months. I guess as long as you can't bet on esport it's ok.
lol I didn't even know that either.
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Winamax is a poker and betting website and it has been sponsoring Millenium for ever and Fnatic for the last 18 months. I guess as long as you can't bet on esport it's ok.
i would probably believe that they were not paying close attention to all the sponsors more, than them making exceptions for certain types of gambling over others.
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So what kind of money are we talking about here?
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On February 09 2015 07:23 Deathstar wrote:
So what kind of money are we talking about here?
My educated guess is tens of thousands per match/(tournament).
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On February 09 2015 07:20 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:48 geokilla wrote:On February 09 2015 06:46 Holdenintherye wrote:Richard Lewis, the true saviour of esports Oh boy. When was the last time he delivered? Aren't we still waiting for something from him? He's always delivered?
Wasn't there some large article on NASL that was supposed to happen at some point?
That didn't come out when I wasn't looking, did it?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2015 07:28 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 07:20 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2015 06:48 geokilla wrote:On February 09 2015 06:46 Holdenintherye wrote:Richard Lewis, the true saviour of esports Oh boy. When was the last time he delivered? Aren't we still waiting for something from him? He's always delivered? Wasn't there some large article on NASL that was supposed to happen at some point? That didn't come out when I wasn't looking, did it?
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/03/nasl-may-have-closed-due-to-lack-of-money/
Close enough
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