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"Suspicious Korean sponsors" tweets by Olimoley

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Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 18:46:35
February 08 2015 17:55 GMT
#1
Update Update: Olimoley has released further explanation for her tweets.

Update: We now have statements by some tournament organizers: Pughy, Mal, SC2Improve and Conn.SI


The tournament organizer Olivia "Olimoley" Wong has posted several tweets stating that a big part of the korean SC2 scene is based on illegal betting. These tweets are another case of recently raised match-fixing allegations against the korean SC2 scene (see this thread).
According to her and other SC2 personalities, korean gamblers have sponsored small online tournaments with prizepools of $1-2k to be able to observe in-game, passing the stream delay. This allows them to bet "ahead" of other gamblers, thus getting a big advantage. This has been going on for at least 6 months.
This issue is also the reason for not allowing korean casters in the (Wiki)OlimoLeague, a weekly korean cup organized by her and funded via Patreon.

Olimoley has also posted a list of tournaments named "Where did the money come from?" containing tournaments like (Wiki)MAL presents: Smallest Map Possible, the (Wiki)PughCraft Invitational 1 events and former progamer Dragon's Invitationals. These tournaments were allegedly sponsored by korean gamblers, but there is no accusation of match-fixing against anyone.

Apparently, Blizzard was informed about the issue and has been compiling evidences as it is a very serious matter.

There haven't been any statements by the accused organizers yet. more information by Olimoley should be forthcoming, According to mYi's manager PengWin, proof will be released soon. He also states that tournament organizers might not have known about that and that "the better was posing as a translator, an admin, or some other tournament official". TotalBiscuit has released a longer text trying to explain Olimoley's accusations, containing following extract:

a) Harassing players, admins and casters for information and in the worst cases, offering money to throw matches. We have no idea how many players if any have thrown maps in this way, but what we do know is that players are constantly approached to do it. MMA recently deleted his Facebook account because he kept getting messages from Korean betters. Progamers in Korea are being pestered by these people constantly.


Olimoley later stated that she has sent all proof to Richard Lewis, a well-known esports reporter, who will publish an article about the issue.


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List of tournaments on twitlonger

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2v7ewt/olivia_wong_on_twitter_i_enjoy_my_jobsc2_but_this/cof642k



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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
February 08 2015 17:56 GMT
#2
Reminds me of everyone turning a blind eye to Azubu's money laundering.
Cereal
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 08 2015 17:57 GMT
#3
I can easily imagine she's right.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
February 08 2015 17:57 GMT
#4
Wow :O
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
February 08 2015 17:57 GMT
#5
This is sad but not surprising.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 08 2015 17:58 GMT
#6
Shitstorm inc
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:01:26
February 08 2015 17:59 GMT
#7
Until we have more than angry tweets with no details, this is mere speculation that does more harm than good.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 17:59 GMT
#8
I'm just wondering which betting sites would offer lines for online tournaments like these. Or are the people funding these matches also running the betting sites?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
February 08 2015 18:00 GMT
#9
On February 09 2015 02:57 HolydaKing wrote:
I can easily imagine she's right.

Same there :/
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 08 2015 18:14 GMT
#10
well this is interesting
Moderatorlickypiddy
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
February 08 2015 18:21 GMT
#11
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
February 08 2015 18:22 GMT
#12
Thread reopened.

I do recall there being mentions of a sponsor who asked for a 1hour delay between game and stream. Destiny and BaseTrade both mentioned them, IIRC.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
February 08 2015 18:23 GMT
#13
Well the Uthermal tweets actually make this a lot more believable.
We know nothing.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
February 08 2015 18:23 GMT
#14
If it is all illegal why Savior is not playing?
:3
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:26:32
February 08 2015 18:24 GMT
#15
On February 09 2015 03:22 peanuts wrote:
Thread reopened.

I do recall there being mentions of a sponsor who asked for a 1hour delay between game and stream. Destiny and BaseTrade both mentioned them, IIRC.

I'm not sure whether that's nefarious or responsible

Edit: i guess it's nefarious given what uThermal tweeted and what myiPengwin said on screddit
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:48:27
February 08 2015 18:24 GMT
#16
So, why do bookmakers allow betting on minor tournaments? Even if the Koreans ones operate in illegal territory it is in their interest to prevent obvious match-fixing from happening (unless they instigate and benefit from it themselves).
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 18:26 GMT
#17
Very cool of uThermal to speak out. Let's tackle this cancer before it grows!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 08 2015 18:26 GMT
#18
Wishful thinking: everything is fine.
Possible reality: something bad is actually going on.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
February 08 2015 18:27 GMT
#19
On February 09 2015 03:24 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:22 peanuts wrote:
Thread reopened.

I do recall there being mentions of a sponsor who asked for a 1hour delay between game and stream. Destiny and BaseTrade both mentioned them, IIRC.

I'm not sure whether that's nefarious or responsible

The gambler/sponsor wanted to have an advantage for his bets, so he requested in-game oberving (according to uThermal's tweet). A 1-hour delay would have helped him a lot, as he'd passed that.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 08 2015 18:27 GMT
#20
On February 09 2015 03:26 digmouse wrote:
Wishful thinking: everything is fine.
Possible reality: something bad is actually going on.

shits gonna get real pretty fast
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