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TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
February 08 2015 18:41 GMT
#41
That's insane that this has been happening for such a long time and with (allegedly) so many orgs. Makes you wonder how bleak the situation must be for Oliva to take this public to put pressure on Blizzard...
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 08 2015 18:42 GMT
#42
this is going to be a long one
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:42:41
February 08 2015 18:42 GMT
#43
--- Nuked ---
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6519 Posts
February 08 2015 18:42 GMT
#44
It's all well and good to say that KR esports betting is popular, and that some cases of matchfixing or fake observers. But the "Where did the money come from?" list seems over the line of pointing fingers without solid direct evidence.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#45
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone sitting in a game with a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?

It's still all sorts of illegal either way, and could be extremely harmful to SC2s repuation.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
February 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#46
On February 09 2015 03:38 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:36 Musicus wrote:

This makes me fucking furious

Six months? Six fucking months?????????

To be fair, if Blizzard revealed anything without proper evidence, the perpetrators will stop everything until it blows over.

Blizzard smartly stayed quiet so that the perpetrators can continue, thus giving Blizzard more evidence.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
February 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#47
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone observing a game that for the rest of us has a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?

It's not match fixing but it's not allowed at all.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#48
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone observing a game that for the rest of us has a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?


Inside trading then, not that match fixing isn't possible in this case either.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
February 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#49
I'm not surprised by any of this really. SC2 is nothing more than looking to make a quick buck for these sponsors given how bad the state of the game is. Blizzard doesn't even care about it's own ladder system, so why would they care about the tournaments being run?
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
February 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#50
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone observing a game that for the rest of us has a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?

It's more insider betting than match fixing from what it seems.
Matchfixing could be involved, but there's no evidence for that yet.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#51
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone observing a game that for the rest of us has a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?


It is attempted match fixing at least. Players were offered money to throw matches. Now how many (if any) accepted, nobody knows. But if MMA had to delete his facebook page, because those offers kept coming, it's quite serious.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 08 2015 18:45 GMT
#52
On February 09 2015 03:42 oBlade wrote:
It's all well and good to say that KR esports betting is popular, and that some cases of matchfixing or fake observers. But the "Where did the money come from?" list seems over the line of pointing fingers without solid direct evidence.

Its not really pointing fingers, I mean holding a tournament and not thinking through who the sponsor really is isn't really such a bad thing. I'm not saying its good or anything just that its far from being as serious as calling someone out on matchfixing.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#53
On February 09 2015 03:44 geokilla wrote:
I'm not surprised by any of this really. SC2 is nothing more than looking to make a quick buck for these sponsors given how bad the state of the game is. Blizzard doesn't even care about it's own ladder system, so why would they care about the tournaments being run?

People always finding a way to bash sc2 and call it a daedgaem actually impresses me
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
February 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#54
On February 09 2015 03:44 Talionis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:42 SatedSC2 wrote:
Can we be very clear about this:

Someone observing a game that for the rest of us has a delay and using "ahead of stream" information to bet on matches is not the same as match-fixing. Match fixing involves players losing on purpose, this sounds different..?

It's more insider betting than match fixing from what it seems.
Matchfixing could be involved, but there's no evidence for that yet.


While there only has been elaborated on the inside issues, she does imply both with the following comment:

And there are certain KR players allegedly helping them. I know who U R
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
February 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#55
If this is true (which given how many people seem to know about it and who are trustworthy within the scene it seems to be) then this is seriously bad for KR SC2. Blizzard and KeSPA need to sort this out ASAP and deal with everyone involved.

And by all I mean the betters/players/coaches involved, dealing with tournament organisers is probably a murky area, given how we don't know how much information they knew in regards to who the sponsors truly are and the experience of the organisers in question running the tournament.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 08 2015 18:47 GMT
#56
This makes me scared, someone pls hold me
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 08 2015 18:47 GMT
#57
I want and we need names now though. And soon
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:48:35
February 08 2015 18:47 GMT
#58


#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 18:49:15
February 08 2015 18:48 GMT
#59
On February 09 2015 03:47 GumBa wrote:
I want and we need names now though. And soon


oh man, I hope my fav players aren't involved in this…

I will be a sad panda if herO or INnoVation's names are dropped…

sad panda
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
February 08 2015 18:49 GMT
#60
On February 09 2015 03:47 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/mYiKane/status/564495263062966272

https://twitter.com/mYiKane/status/564495506433261568


Well this probably isn't going to end well
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
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