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On February 09 2015 03:57 tribulator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 03:55 geokilla wrote:
Wait wouldn't this explain the San vs Dark game and that betting site claiming there was match fixing going on? Or did we already get a clear answer to that problem? For that to explain the San v Dark bets, that would have to mean proleague has a massive delay on its stream and doesn't police it's lobbies, letting anyone in. So I doubt that the two incidents are connected (unless the same people are involved on the money side of things).
Furthermore unless dark and/or san also play in a lot of these tournaments its unlikely they're involved on the player side of it as match fixers
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After the non-response from Kespa and the community over the San vs Dark betting scandal, its no wonder that matchfixer decided that SC2 was ripe for the picking.
Even when people were caught red handed, the community and Kespa still did nothing.
So this is what you get.
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FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?
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On February 09 2015 03:59 dsousa wrote:
After the non-response from Kespa and the community over the San vs Dark betting scandal, its no wonder that matchfixer decided that SC2 was ripe for the picking.
Even when people were caught red handed, the community and Kespa still did nothing.
So this is what you get.
But it's been going on for way longer than that.
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On February 09 2015 03:45 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 03:42 oBlade wrote:
It's all well and good to say that KR esports betting is popular, and that some cases of matchfixing or fake observers. But the "Where did the money come from?" list seems over the line of pointing fingers without solid direct evidence. Its not really pointing fingers, I mean holding a tournament and not thinking through who the sponsor really is isn't really such a bad thing. I'm not saying its good or anything just that its far from being as serious as calling someone out on matchfixing.
It takes no effort to go into the Tourneys section of this forum and make a list of any tournament with more than $1000 at stake and then ask "where did the money come from?" If you phrase it like that it suggests a presumption of guilt, that something shady happened until you can show otherwise. I don't think that's fair. Nothing necessarily happened, it just means olimoley doesn't have the power to audit an event she wasn't involved with.
It puts undue suspicion on these events and anyone who participated, like they owe an explanation for something.
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It's pretty weird that some players have been invited to nearly every tournament such as Ragnarok or Center for example. Seriously nobody can ever tell me that this is just pure randomness but as already mentioned, innocent until proven guilty and accusations shouldn't just be thrown around.
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On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?
Writing the WCS handbook of course !
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On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?
Legacy of the Void
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I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.
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If people can cheat, they'll cheat. It's true for any community. The stream could be run without a delay but no one is even considering that because it makes it too easy for players to cheat. That's already the world we live in.
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On February 09 2015 04:01 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ? Writing the WCS handbook of course !
Oh god, you bastard, now I have water all over my keyboard again...
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Well that's convenient. 
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So they suddenly decide to compile proof NOW after Olivia Wong tweeted out those things? This is ridiculous. You don't wait till shit hits the fan to expose cheaters and hackers. You do it as soon as you have proof of it.
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Thank you Olivia, TB and Kane for coming out with this and giving the community answers as to what is going on.
Must have been hard as hell to keep this shit bottled up inside while the faith in blizz just kept falling as the time passed by. This community have so many great people in it!
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On February 09 2015 04:01 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ? Writing the WCS handbook of course !
And telling people that brought up the match fixing / inside betting scandal stuff that they were already investigating. Now that it's public though, Blizzard is probably thinking "Shit guys, now we might actually have to do something."
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On February 09 2015 04:07 geokilla wrote:So they suddenly decide to compile proof NOW after Olivia Wong tweeted out those things? This is ridiculous. You don't wait till shit hits the fan to expose cheaters and hackers. You do it as soon as you have proof of it.
But that's how they work and that's why this thread is important and not just blind witchhunting. Without public pressure it would just take forever, as sad as that is.
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Monday morning drama. Should be an interesting week.
at least KT players can't be involved since they never play in these online tournaments.
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