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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 08 2015 18:59 GMT
#81
On February 09 2015 03:57 tribulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:55 geokilla wrote:
Wait wouldn't this explain the San vs Dark game and that betting site claiming there was match fixing going on? Or did we already get a clear answer to that problem?


For that to explain the San v Dark bets, that would have to mean proleague has a massive delay on its stream and doesn't police it's lobbies, letting anyone in.

So I doubt that the two incidents are connected (unless the same people are involved on the money side of things).


Furthermore unless dark and/or san also play in a lot of these tournaments its unlikely they're involved on the player side of it as match fixers
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
February 08 2015 18:59 GMT
#82
After the non-response from Kespa and the community over the San vs Dark betting scandal, its no wonder that matchfixer decided that SC2 was ripe for the picking.

Even when people were caught red handed, the community and Kespa still did nothing.

So this is what you get.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 19:00 GMT
#83


Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 08 2015 19:00 GMT
#84
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 19:01 GMT
#85
On February 09 2015 03:59 dsousa wrote:
After the non-response from Kespa and the community over the San vs Dark betting scandal, its no wonder that matchfixer decided that SC2 was ripe for the picking.

Even when people were caught red handed, the community and Kespa still did nothing.

So this is what you get.


But it's been going on for way longer than that.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5589 Posts
February 08 2015 19:01 GMT
#86
On February 09 2015 03:45 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:42 oBlade wrote:
It's all well and good to say that KR esports betting is popular, and that some cases of matchfixing or fake observers. But the "Where did the money come from?" list seems over the line of pointing fingers without solid direct evidence.

Its not really pointing fingers, I mean holding a tournament and not thinking through who the sponsor really is isn't really such a bad thing. I'm not saying its good or anything just that its far from being as serious as calling someone out on matchfixing.

It takes no effort to go into the Tourneys section of this forum and make a list of any tournament with more than $1000 at stake and then ask "where did the money come from?" If you phrase it like that it suggests a presumption of guilt, that something shady happened until you can show otherwise. I don't think that's fair. Nothing necessarily happened, it just means olimoley doesn't have the power to audit an event she wasn't involved with.

It puts undue suspicion on these events and anyone who participated, like they owe an explanation for something.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ChrisFreak
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany13 Posts
February 08 2015 19:01 GMT
#87
It's pretty weird that some players have been invited to nearly every tournament such as Ragnarok or Center for example. Seriously nobody can ever tell me that this is just pure randomness but as already mentioned, innocent until proven guilty and accusations shouldn't just be thrown around.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 08 2015 19:01 GMT
#88
On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?

Writing the WCS handbook of course !
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 08 2015 19:02 GMT
#89
On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?

Legacy of the Void
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
February 08 2015 19:03 GMT
#90
I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
February 08 2015 19:04 GMT
#91
If people can cheat, they'll cheat. It's true for any community. The stream could be run without a delay but no one is even considering that because it makes it too easy for players to cheat. That's already the world we live in.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 08 2015 19:04 GMT
#92
On February 09 2015 04:03 Spect8rCraft wrote:
I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2v7ewt/olivia_wong_on_twitter_i_enjoy_my_jobsc2_but_this/cof642k
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 19:04 GMT
#93
On February 09 2015 04:01 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?

Writing the WCS handbook of course !


Oh god, you bastard, now I have water all over my keyboard again...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
February 08 2015 19:06 GMT
#94
On February 09 2015 04:04 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:03 Spect8rCraft wrote:
I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2v7ewt/olivia_wong_on_twitter_i_enjoy_my_jobsc2_but_this/cof642k


Well that's convenient.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
February 08 2015 19:07 GMT
#95
On February 09 2015 04:04 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:03 Spect8rCraft wrote:
I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2v7ewt/olivia_wong_on_twitter_i_enjoy_my_jobsc2_but_this/cof642k

So they suddenly decide to compile proof NOW after Olivia Wong tweeted out those things? This is ridiculous. You don't wait till shit hits the fan to expose cheaters and hackers. You do it as soon as you have proof of it.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#96
Thank you Olivia, TB and Kane for coming out with this and giving the community answers as to what is going on.

Must have been hard as hell to keep this shit bottled up inside while the faith in blizz just kept falling as the time passed by. This community have so many great people in it!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
February 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#97
waiting for the proof!
Vasacast always in my <3
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
February 08 2015 19:09 GMT
#98
On February 09 2015 04:01 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:00 Boucot wrote:
FFS what has Blizzard been doing in the last 6 months ?

Writing the WCS handbook of course !

And telling people that brought up the match fixing / inside betting scandal stuff that they were already investigating. Now that it's public though, Blizzard is probably thinking "Shit guys, now we might actually have to do something."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 08 2015 19:09 GMT
#99
On February 09 2015 04:07 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:04 Alchemik wrote:
On February 09 2015 04:03 Spect8rCraft wrote:
I feel like Blizzard or someone needs to make a definitive statement about this issue. I realize that people shouldn't jump to conclusions, but when this has gone on for six months, surely there should be enough evidence compiled for some culprit to be conclusive? There's too much murkiness, gray-area discussion and inconclusiveness.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2v7ewt/olivia_wong_on_twitter_i_enjoy_my_jobsc2_but_this/cof642k

So they suddenly decide to compile proof NOW after Olivia Wong tweeted out those things? This is ridiculous. You don't wait till shit hits the fan to expose cheaters and hackers. You do it as soon as you have proof of it.


But that's how they work and that's why this thread is important and not just blind witchhunting. Without public pressure it would just take forever, as sad as that is.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 08 2015 19:09 GMT
#100
Monday morning drama. Should be an interesting week.

at least KT players can't be involved since they never play in these online tournaments.
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