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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 09 2014 23:24 404AlphaSquad wrote: It is funny how people here are on their high horse and pretend knowing exactly how every map will play out and which race it will favor. TL is made up of 100% Masters+ players, so we are all experts | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On October 09 2014 23:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: TL is made up of 100% Masters+ players, so we are all experts I'm the only person who isn't masters league or higher, but I LR and make maps so I'm also an expert | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
With Meta the combination of massive surface area at the natural location and two narrow lanes being the only non-air ways around the map are not filling me with much hope when it comes specifically to the PvZ matchup. | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On October 09 2014 23:38 Wombat_NI wrote: There are certain things you can predict reasonably accurately looking at the map architecture, how the map played before and what new HoTS units could potentially do on said map. but... but daedalus point was going to "shake up the meta"!!! toss was going to learn to adapt and start doing 1 base dt and the game was going to be revitalized and deathballs were going to end. didn't that happen??? | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On October 09 2014 23:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: TL is made up of 100% Masters+ players, so we are all experts I beat masters+, onto masters++ now, the bosses are way harder. | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
On October 10 2014 03:37 brickrd wrote: but... but daedalus point was going to "shake up the meta"!!! toss was going to learn to adapt and start doing 1 base dt and the game was going to be revitalized and deathballs were going to end. didn't that happen??? hey, daedalus was blizzard's, leave us out of this. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:46 Wombat_NI wrote: I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with the first incarnation of Daedalus lol Probably something like "protoss is getting kind of OP, let's make a map that they can't win ever on" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:46 Wombat_NI wrote: I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with the first incarnation of Daedalus lol The ramp was 4-wide instead of 3-wide. That was basically it. They patched it asap, when they saw that it really doesn't work. I don't think blizzard should get so much hate for it, I'd rather have them do those experiements on a regular basis to stretch the game balance. Though, maybe not in WCS but maybe in between seasons. Oh, that's what they are doing right now!  | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:07 Circumstance wrote: Everyone's favorite cynic had this to say after his operation today: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520194136591568896 ahaha thats great, so funny cause i just saw the thread about polt and the 6 figures a year and someone posted a vod of the super tournament with polt and mma and saw the Metalopolis game and started remembering all the games on it and omg this is going to be bad. this season will be odd/funny/bad/weird, pick one. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On October 10 2014 03:37 brickrd wrote: but... but daedalus point was going to "shake up the meta"!!! toss was going to learn to adapt and start doing 1 base dt and the game was going to be revitalized and deathballs were going to end. didn't that happen??? Yeah Daedalus is the worst map they have had in the pool in hots and everyone saw it wasn't possible to play real games on it so blizz had to change it. Now we get maps like Metalopolis and possibly Xel'naga etc which are just as horrible as Daedalus and it'll be the same thing on them with protosses not being able to play at all. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:52 Zheryn wrote: Yeah Daedalus is the worst map they have had in the pool in hots and everyone saw it wasn't possible to play real games on it so blizz had to change it. Now we get maps like Metalopolis and possibly Xel'naga etc which are just as horrible as Daedalus and it'll be the same thing on them with protosses not being able to play at all. At least on the old maps you can wall from ramp to nexus, on Daedalus that was impossible. | ||
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algue
France1436 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:52 Zheryn wrote: Yeah Daedalus is the worst map they have had in the pool in hots and everyone saw it wasn't possible to play real games on it so blizz had to change it. Now we get maps like Metalopolis and possibly Xel'naga etc which are just as horrible as Daedalus and it'll be the same thing on them with protosses not being able to play at all. At the moment we have Metalopolis and Cloud Kingdom. The general concensus is that CK will be totally fine for protoss. Metalopolis might be a less protoss favored map but we can't have a 100% protoss favored map pool. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On October 10 2014 12:37 -NegativeZero- wrote: At least on the old maps you can wall from ramp to nexus, on Daedalus that was impossible. Walling from ramp to nexus is reaaaally iffy these days though. You just need -something- to fully block lings, or shit like this happens and you can't do anything to stop it: http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv/b/333215553?t=32m43s In fact, the need to fully wall is why people started doing that instead of going ramp-nexus on Antiga for example. edit: CK will be more than fine for protoss. It's as good as Yeonsu was for blink all-ins. It's fine to have maps that slightly favour one race over the other, it's not fine to have maps that make one (or more) matchup or race completely and utterly miserable. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:07 Circumstance wrote: Everyone's favorite cynic had this to say after his operation today: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520194136591568896 What did he said ? I don't have sound at work  (hope he is alright) | ||
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ETisME
12703 Posts
So much memories, I fought my way out from bronze | ||
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