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On September 17 2014 03:23 Sirrush wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:20 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:18 Sirrush wrote:On September 17 2014 03:14 brickrd wrote:besides, arent they still gathering suggestions on the final poll? i think thats a really important detail. they can simply choose not to let people vote for maps like steppes. On September 17 2014 03:14 Sirrush wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote:
So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt There's a specific line in Blizzard's announcement that implies to me they won't be doing any balancing on these old maps whatsoever: " Did you discover an unbeatable strategy on Habitation Station only after it left the ladder?" Plus, you know, rebalancing the old maps would completely defeat the purpose of bringing them back, cause they would be unrecognizably altered. im talking about rebalancing on the level of changing rocks or ramp widths not total redesigns. Thats still not going to change much if you can build an inbase Stargate that's closer to your opponents mineral line, than yours (Metalopolis), or where one single Medivac Boost will get your across the entire map (pretty much all small maps). You cant have serious practice when every map has a specific strategy thats completely imba. what about the first line of my post? they can choose to offer or not offer any maps they want on the poll. if a map cant be fixed or made suitable for hots they probably wont put it on the final poll. maybe im drinking the koolaid but i dont think theyre stupid enough to use the absurdly goofy maps. even if they did it would probably be 2 at maximum and even then i think enough pros would flip shit to stop it There's nothing in the original post to suggest Blizzard will do any sort of balancing, or map picking. They simply said "The seven maps that receive the most votes by October 1 will be added to the Season 4 ladder map pool." Yes, maybe they will change things, or veto maps, but as of right now there's 0 indication of them doing so, so until that happens I'll continue to flip my shit to make it known that their current (publicly announced) idea/competition is absolutely off the wall insane.
i think you are confused.
we are not able to select the maps which will appear on the final poll. blizzard exclusively makes that choice and nothing they said suggests otherwise. they can leave out any maps they want
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Seriously though, Shakuras Plateau is a must. That map basically set the standard for all maps to come. Just for legacies sake, it has to be one of them
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Austria24422 Posts
Surprisingly enough, I have never thought about Xelnaga Caverns ever again since it was removed.
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Metalopolis, Blistering Sands, XelNaga Caverns, TalDarim Altar, Entombed Valley, Shattered Temple and Abyssal Caverns.
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Teoita Psione knows quite a bit about maps, he lurks quite a bit, that's his job after all, i wouldn't be surprised if he had already read that and many other articles/post/threads wrote by Lalush, the Streategy team and mapmakers.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On September 17 2014 03:27 ivancype wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:16 Psione wrote:On September 17 2014 03:06 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:04 Ovid wrote:
What was that cool map in GSL with the beach deck chairs? I think Ohana would be a sensible enough one to put in, all I hope is that there will be a hyper aggressive map in the pool. this one i think? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/417029-2-crux-haeundae yeah i loved watching this map! That's definitely a cool map, however only previous ladder maps are eligible for this poll. That still leaves roughly 60 maps to choose from.  Vote wisely http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Maps/Ladder_Maps
Ugh, Klontas Mire
I totally forgot that one
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Italy12248 Posts
On September 17 2014 03:27 Uvantak wrote:Teoita Psione knows quite a bit about maps, he lurks quite a bit, that's his job after all, i wouldn't be surprised if he had already read that and many other articles/post/threads wrote by Lalush, the Streategy team and mapmakers.
Maybe, but the fact that Steppes, Metalopolis and the like have a chance of being back on ladder shows that this isn't exactly a well thought out idea 
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THIS WILL NOT END WELL.
THIS WILL REALLY NOT END WELL.
There's a reason we got rid of most of these maps....
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Daybreak was awesome at the time, but try playing against Swarm Hosts on it...
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On September 17 2014 03:30 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:27 Uvantak wrote:On September 17 2014 03:23 Teoita wrote:On September 17 2014 03:16 Psione wrote:On September 17 2014 03:06 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:04 Ovid wrote:
What was that cool map in GSL with the beach deck chairs? I think Ohana would be a sensible enough one to put in, all I hope is that there will be a hyper aggressive map in the pool. this one i think? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/417029-2-crux-haeundae yeah i loved watching this map! That's definitely a cool map, however only previous ladder maps are eligible for this poll. That still leaves roughly 60 maps to choose from. For the love of everything that is nerdy and awesome in the universe, i beg you, please read this article http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/443505-daedalus-point-a-lesson-in-map-making 2-3 maps we can veto are fine, but no more Teoita Psione knows quite a bit about maps, he lurks quite a bit, that's his job after all, i wouldn't be surprised if he had already read that and many other articles/post/threads wrote by Lalush, the Streategy team and mapmakers. Maybe, but the fact that Steppes, Metalopolis and the like have a chance of being back on ladder shows that this is the best idea ever
Fixed that for you. The games will all be stupid, but they'll be awesome stupid
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On September 17 2014 03:31 DinoMight wrote:
Daybreak was awesome at the time, but try playing against Swarm Hosts on it...
Maybe a no rock at middle but a wall?
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On September 17 2014 03:23 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 03:23 Sirrush wrote:On September 17 2014 03:20 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:18 Sirrush wrote:On September 17 2014 03:14 brickrd wrote:besides, arent they still gathering suggestions on the final poll? i think thats a really important detail. they can simply choose not to let people vote for maps like steppes. On September 17 2014 03:14 Sirrush wrote:On September 17 2014 03:10 brickrd wrote:On September 17 2014 03:08 Sirrush wrote:
So all pro players are just completely fucked if they want to practice on the ladder during the off-season? The off-season which is going to be super important for practice, considering EVERYONE has to requalify for WCS?
This is going to suck... why? they will rebalance the maps as necessary. after daedalus point they would be out of their minds not to. i would be truly shocked if they didnt There's a specific line in Blizzard's announcement that implies to me they won't be doing any balancing on these old maps whatsoever: " Did you discover an unbeatable strategy on Habitation Station only after it left the ladder?" Plus, you know, rebalancing the old maps would completely defeat the purpose of bringing them back, cause they would be unrecognizably altered. im talking about rebalancing on the level of changing rocks or ramp widths not total redesigns. Thats still not going to change much if you can build an inbase Stargate that's closer to your opponents mineral line, than yours (Metalopolis), or where one single Medivac Boost will get your across the entire map (pretty much all small maps). You cant have serious practice when every map has a specific strategy thats completely imba. what about the first line of my post? they can choose to offer or not offer any maps they want on the poll. if a map cant be fixed or made suitable for hots they probably wont put it on the final poll. maybe im drinking the koolaid but i dont think theyre stupid enough to use the absurdly goofy maps. even if they did it would probably be 2 at maximum and even then i think enough pros would flip shit to stop it There's nothing in the original post to suggest Blizzard will do any sort of balancing, or map picking. They simply said "The seven maps that receive the most votes by October 1 will be added to the Season 4 ladder map pool." Yes, maybe they will change things, or veto maps, but as of right now there's 0 indication of them doing so, so until that happens I'll continue to flip my shit to make it known that their current (publicly announced) idea/competition is absolutely off the wall insane. i think you are confused. we are not able to select the maps which will appear on the final poll. blizzard exclusively makes that choice and nothing they said suggests otherwise. they can leave out any maps they want
to go back on this a bit, i think i was wrong to say "nothing suggests otherwise" as they do intimate that "the most popular choices" will be on the final poll, but i'm pretty sure that's public relations talk to get people hyped and simultaneously give blizz a loophole to weed out the stupid maps.
think about it, if they were going to abide "the most popular maps" as suggested in these threads then why wouldn't we just be voting already right now instead of brainstorming a "final poll"? there's literally no reason to have a suggestion stage before the poll unless they're reserving the right to make intelligent changes/omissions
i have faith!
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I did the #dreampool for Scrap Station, Jungle Basin and Metropolis.
Basically I am trying to exterminate Zerg from Ladder :p
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Next season is going to be good! I want Ohana back!
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Ohana and Metropolis! Some epic games happened on Metropolis and Ohana is just good.
Just no Metalopolis
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On September 17 2014 03:35 ChromeBallz wrote:Ohana and Metropolis! Some epic games happened on Metropolis and Ohana is just good. Just no Metalopolis
I want open naturals.
Metalopolis <3
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EPT
