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On September 25 2014 04:44 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 04:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 25 2014 04:33 opisska wrote:
I finally realized how bogus is the "but what about the pros" argument. NONE of the old maps will ever get used in serious competition again, no matter whether it is Steppes of War or Ohana. The ladder pool with any of these maps is equally useless for anyone to seriously practice.
So, with this argument out of the way, we can only weep that Steppes is the only really weird map in the actual poll. It could have been useless and funny, but you will have it useless and boring, as you all wish. You realize some players (who are the best on their teams or don't have any, don't have many connections, etc) get their main practice from ladder ? Just to play devil's advocate, couldn't that actually help them by forcing them to find practice partners which will probably be useful in the long run?
You seem to think finding a practice partner is easy. Of course it will help to have a practice partner, but as Wire mentioned, many pros rely on the ladder for training; I believe Bomber trains exclusively on the ladder.
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My votes
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Darkhorse, I'm disappointed. While you seem to have picked every single map that had gold bases in the middle except Antiga Shipyard, you did not pick Steppes of War, or even Daybreak.
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On September 25 2014 06:52 The_Templar wrote:Darkhorse, I'm disappointed. While you seem to have picked every single map that had gold bases in the middle except Antiga Shipyard, you did not pick Steppes of War, or even Daybreak.
I only had seven votes TT
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Lost Temple, Xel'naga Caverns
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On September 25 2014 06:53 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 06:52 The_Templar wrote:Darkhorse, I'm disappointed. While you seem to have picked every single map that had gold bases in the middle except Antiga Shipyard, you did not pick Steppes of War, or even Daybreak. I only had seven votes TT
Change Shakuras Plateau into Steppes of War and you have a perfect pool.
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i don't see this helping anyone get motivated to play ladder.
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Yeah, it seems to be going as miserably as everyone who gave two shits about the balance of the game could see coming from a mile away. In particular, the pros want nothing to do with it. Tournaments are opting out of it in favor of the last season. They're just alienating devoted players to try to bring back some casuals, who won't stick around. The cheesers who can't ever handle losing or aspiring to play a better overall game of sc are the only ones really enjoying this. It was a lame attempt to get people back and giving a shit about SC2 just in time for an LotV announcement which was itself rife with half-baked concepts and 180 degree reversals on positions they had kept on fan favorite issues like dealing with forcefields, having lurkers, buffing carriers. They're just trying to sell boxes and the dreampool was just an indication of how much they actually care about balance or their pro players, by contrast to what little sales they think they can squeak out by throwing those concerns out of the window for one stab at nostalgia to get the hype train in motion one last time, because it's their last chance to make money off of the game.
So yeah, I wouldn't think that they don't know what they've done and how people would experience it. Blizzard is a business. Fanboys are determined to forget that and be optimistic in ways that could only be enabled by naivete. Confirmation biases are powerful, until you kill them off and take one honest look around XD
I will poop my pants and eat it if Blizzard ever begins to acknowledge that this was a bad idea. They are notoriously uncritical of their own mistakes, and simultaneously obsessed with maintaining a mere image of competence and caring. That's why they only ever /sometimes/ look like the companies who /always/ look like the great companies they really are.
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it was a good idea and i'm enjoying it 
only thing they should have done was probably give people a way to opt out, maybe make the dreampool unranked only or something like that. but it was a fantastic concept. the maps aren't my 100% ideal, but it's still cool for sure
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I'm not, it sucks and I'm waiting for the next season before starting to play again more often.. i'm playing 2v2s these days lol.
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On November 23 2014 12:09 jax1492 wrote:
i don't see this helping anyone get motivated to play ladder.
then why did i immediately play a bunch of old WOL players using old WOL builds when the season started?
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I have to say, its a good feeling to play on the old maps again.
But after a few games on them it becomes very boring to have ONLY old maps in the pool.
I think it would be a better solution to have 1 old map in each mappool instead of only old maps in one pool.
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im really not feeling this pool tbh, i only started playing sc2 in like very late wol (2012ish) so i dont even get the nostalgic feels from most of these maps except daybreak cloud kingdom etc
and even then my favourite maps (from when i started playing seriously) were things like whirlwind and star station 
iv been offracing more than iv been mainracing tbh, these maps kinda demand the sort of zerg i dont really like to play so yeah 
thankfully ittl be a shorter season!
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This is a disgusting season
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I'm loving it, but it's going to get real old real soon I fear. 1 vintage map per season sounds like a good idea. Maybe some BW revamps as well?
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I usually play 400 games per season. This season I have played 10... And I don't think I'll play anymore.
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On November 23 2014 21:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
I usually play 400 games per season. This season I have played 10... And I don't think I'll play anymore.
addapt
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I am having so much fun this season so far, so much cheese thrown to me :D
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On November 23 2014 12:09 jax1492 wrote:
i don't see this helping anyone get motivated to play ladder.
This mappool motivated me to play heroes of the storm and only weekly online cups as zcup and go4. But ladder, no, thanks.
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