2015 Season of Proleague may award WCS points. - Page 4

On September 16 2014 01:25 N.geNuity wrote:

What about when shine goes on a 14 game win streak and everybody bitches about it?

On September 16 2014 01:15 JustPassingBy wrote:


I think three seasons is just right. Having too many seasons kind of devaluates each season and most importantly the title of the champion. I'd rather have a second tournament series running alongside it.

On September 16 2014 00:30 REyeM wrote:


I did some math.. :pppp

If that was the case, this would be the current top 16:

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On September 16 2014 01:28 andrewlt wrote:


I just randomly threw out a very big number because that's how Blizzard operates. This list looks much better than the current WCS standings, though. It's far more indicative of actual skill and performance.

On September 16 2014 01:40 NexUmbra wrote:
It's funny to read all these people saying "Just do more tournaments in Korea," these tournaments aren't just going to appear out of thin air. The reason why they might add points to proleague is because proleague is already an established thing, no one has to put more money into the scene.

On September 16 2014 03:02 eviltomahawk wrote:

I think it's a symptom of following the BW model where most of the interest was consolidated in a few big long-term leagues (like MSL, OSL, Proleague then; now GSL and Proleague). Other tournaments would have to work around them, and most just ended up being products of KeSPA (or its subsidiaries) and Gom themselves.

On September 16 2014 04:05 raga4ka wrote:
Make Proleague an open tournament for all teams around the world and give points for every round individual wins/ team wins - round winners or whatever , fans and players could also benefit if it was atleast a Bo7 with a Bo9 round playe-offs . Just like there is a Dreamhack/IEM tournament every so month there were 5 round finals that could have given points to the most winning players . That way people won't bitch about it being restricted , and players / teams can choose in what they want to invest .

Europe and America is saturated with all this little 2-3 day tournaments . Korean and foreigners not in Kespa just tour around the world collecting points without even winning tournaments , just scraping a top 16 , 8 , top 4 every now and then and they get to go to blizzcon with this tournament tourism .

With all do respect to some of the players in that top 16 or top 25 list calculated in the WCS predictor , are they more deserving then players like Soo who won god knows how many second places in GSL , or players like Rain , Maru , and probably all of the top 2 - 3 players on each Kespa team ? Kespa is an year long tournament and doesn't get any points while the 3 day tournaments supply points . I think there is something wrong with that .

Thats why we see top of the top players like Rain , Parting , Effort leaving Kespa teams , because of the stagnation , not much benefits in playing for the best teams in the world nor in the strongest league in the world . If points are calculated fairly i don't see why Proleague can't be integrated in the Blizzcon system ? And the haters will say , "but it's a teamleague" and so what if it is ? It is the only teamleague i think it deserves better then a weekend long tournament ... Proleague needs more recognition and more influx of players , money and points . That or Kespa cup running every month with a similar Dreamhack/IEM price pool - points , could also do the job , but i would rather see more being invested in Proleague , where i could root for a team , not just a player .

On September 15 2014 21:26 Wroshe wrote:
hmm, I would be vehemently opposed to this. This would mean that WCS points from here on in are not earned on merit but on whether your coach fields you or not.