EPTNo written contracts despite claims of actually having had a business education. You can't make that up.
Also this exchange is pure gold:
Aldaris Comments on Daily Dot Article, Resigns - Page 6
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
No written contracts despite claims of actually having had a business education. You can't make that up. Also this exchange is pure gold: | ||
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RuFF_SC2
United States203 Posts
On September 04 2014 21:53 Hider wrote: Aldaris quote: Hmm, thought no contracts were signed? Below is a 24days old comment from Reddit. Aldaris a couple of days later: If ZG has neck pain, how can she still cast then but not play? Since I can't help my self, but continue to understand whether he is just insanely dumb or a terrible person or both? I found a response he made to Destiny. First of Destiny explains what it means to be a cheeser. Aldaris then responds: Aldaris apparently doens't even get the implications for playing cheesy.. The reason everyone says he is terrible is because he is cheesy and everyone above silver league knows what that implies.... except for Aldaris. If I was involved in his team and reading some of his reddit comments, I would definitely question whether I was at the right place. Relying on a manager that seems this dumb cannot be a good thing That comment I wrote on reddit in this quote was directed about Cube getting screwed over which is why I left, I also did not like being deceived. To many lies from Aldaris, I could see through all of it the first day we met in Atlanta. I felt bad for cube constantly buying people stuff. I told Aldaris just to cover food since I was going to the event pretty much without sponsorship, the second I saw cube paying for things I told him not to worry about it and started buying my own things. It was sickening sitting there at gas stations when we both refused and he was constantly trying to get out of paying. I even threatened to go to a hotel and have my GF pick me up since I don't live far from Atlanta. Shit just got pretty bad. I spoke to a few pro players about it, I won't bring up names but they know the situation too and people could see I was pretty upset while I was there. Cube is an awesome fun guy to be around. He definitely needs the support after what happened to him. He never spent a penny on anything, even asked to mooch food that we bought. It was pretty pathetic. I don't know anyone who can't spare a fucking dollar to get himself something. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45360 Posts
On September 04 2014 08:30 ReachTheSky wrote: I have no clue who you are or what Alloy esports is......... Yeah seriously. No idea who the OP is, but apparently he's apologizing for being unprofessional, a poor manager, not paying his players, and lying to them. Except he insists that my actions were always in the best interest of the players or the team Right. Well, obviously good riddance I guess. Thanks for the apology, but this is also a first impression of you lol. EDIT: Apparently some SC2 players were screwed (at least temporarily) by this guy. I wish the best of luck to those players, and hope they get what was promised to them! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45360 Posts
On September 04 2014 09:23 TotalBiscuit wrote: Hijacking this thread to announce that Axiom eSports continues to be functional and pay players on-time and is involved in no sketchy shit what-so-ever! Considering what's going on lately, I think that news is noteworthy.  gg wp | ||
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
I sympathize for the players who were taken advantage of, but seriously just be smart about it and this will stop happening. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45360 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:18 SC2Towelie wrote: When will players learn to stop being so naive?... I've seen so many of these kinds of posts that it's just getting to be ridiculous by now. If someone approaches you making promises of paying you a salary and flying you to events, do some research as to who the hell they actually are. This guy apparently already made false promises to another team, Kill Steal Gaming, and owes them money. Another news flash, when you ask someone who their sponsors are and they reply with "wealthy benefactors," run the fuck away. And also make sure that you sign a contract! You can't expect to do business with just a handshake and a "heartfelt" promise. I mean come on guys... use your brains T_T I sympathize for the players who were taken advantage of, but seriously just be smart about it and this will stop happening. I hear there's an African prince who's willing to pay pro-gamers millions of dollars if you'll only give him your social security number and credit card number. Benefits of joining his team include: Team house Team jerseys Additional 6 inches in length Additional 4 inches in girth | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:18 SC2Towelie wrote: When will players learn to stop being so naive?... most people start playing starcraft as a childhood hobby and never dream of getting into it as a business or career and are also very young, not to mention that esports is a glamorous dream job for most young guys. everyone has naive moments and makes bad decisions, but when people run scams and take advantage of each other's trust the focus should not be on victim blaming but on shaming people who can't make an honest dollar and want to use other people's time and talent for their profit | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On September 04 2014 21:34 jakethesnake wrote: This is the worst apology i have ever seen and is probably just a result of this guy being a pathological liar and an attention whore. I don't understand how people are duped by such obvious fraudsters though... The reason is simple, most people have no clue this guy even exists. And most up-coming / fringe (for lack of a better world) players just don't have a ton of options when it comes to who they play for. Both are environments for grifters to thrive in. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:18 SC2Towelie wrote: When will players learn to stop being so naive?... I've seen so many of these kinds of posts that it's just getting to be ridiculous by now. If someone approaches you making promises of paying you a salary and flying you to events, do some research as to who the hell they actually are. This guy apparently already made false promises to another team, Kill Steal Gaming, and owes them money. Another news flash, when you ask someone who their sponsors are and they reply with "wealthy benefactors," run the fuck away. And also make sure that you sign a contract! You can't expect to do business with just a handshake and a "heartfelt" promise. I mean come on guys... use your brains T_T I sympathize for the players who were taken advantage of, but seriously just be smart about it and this will stop happening. Even so, a contract is worth nothing if you cannot enforce its execution. It's futile to sue someone over 200 bucks. | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States714 Posts
On September 04 2014 21:53 Hider wrote: Aldaris a couple of days later: If ZG has neck pain, how can she still cast then but not play? Since I can't help my self, but continue to understand whether he is just insanely dumb or a terrible person or both? I found a response he made to Destiny. First of Destiny explains what it means to be a cheeser. I can't help but address this specifically, and I might as well add to the entire discussion too, but uh, I do legit have neck pain. I've gone to numerous doctors over the course of two years and it's been this whole ordeal. In the group Skype chat we had a conversation about physical problems once, but I didn't mention to Aldaris that neck pain was a reason I left. He just guessed that was the 'real reason' I guess? I told him I wasn't practicing a lot (due to casting so much, I can usually only do one or the other per day, play or cast) and didn't feel I contributed anything. The real, main reason I left was actually not getting what little I asked for, which was practice with teammates. This whole 'ZG picked up by Alloy' thing was so not what I expected when Sam asked me casually 'you wanna be on a team'. I just expected practice sessions and practice partners. Instead of that, I got a dramatic thread with Ruff, a 'statement' that I never made, and a bunch of people saying how bad the move was. I just wanted to practice, not to officially align myself with a small team. Since I expected so little from the team I really have nothing to add, only that from what little I experienced I had, it was obvious Aldaris had little in the way of marketing skills. | ||
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
He HONESTLY thinks he has martyred himself 'for the sake of his team' or something equally ridiculous. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdBqvd0.jpg) He is completely and utterly deluded. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bWBTQZi.jpg) | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On September 06 2014 21:12 mau5mat wrote: This guy, he releases an apology, and just doesn't understand what it actually means. He HONESTLY thinks he has martyred himself 'for the sake of his team' or something equally ridiculous. He is completely and utterly deluded. Not surprising this is his attitude. He's simply not in touch with reality. | ||
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DDR3_
United States1 Post
On September 06 2014 09:00 RuFF_SC2 wrote: That comment I wrote on reddit in this quote was directed about Cube getting screwed over which is why I left, I also did not like being deceived. To many lies from Aldaris, I could see through all of it the first day we met in Atlanta. I felt bad for cube constantly buying people stuff. I told Aldaris just to cover food since I was going to the event pretty much without sponsorship, the second I saw cube paying for things I told him not to worry about it and started buying my own things. It was sickening sitting there at gas stations when we both refused and he was constantly trying to get out of paying. I even threatened to go to a hotel and have my GF pick me up since I don't live far from Atlanta. Shit just got pretty bad. I spoke to a few pro players about it, I won't bring up names but they know the situation too and people could see I was pretty upset while I was there. Cube is an awesome fun guy to be around. He definitely needs the support after what happened to him. He never spent a penny on anything, even asked to mooch food that we bought. It was pretty pathetic. I don't know anyone who can't spare a fucking dollar to get himself something. Wait... He told me that he was paying you and Cube $40 a month, and was bumping it to $70. He didn't seem to happy about it either. I'm so lost. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26391 Posts
REALLY? For fuck's sake. Hopefully people stay clear, his reputation in the scene should see to that. If not hopefully those unaware get warned off. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
Somehow I believe Richard Lewis' reporting much more than Aldaris' chronic lies. On the other hand, recruiting ex-Alloy players seems incredibly stupid too (which actually makes me more inclined to believe this is Aldaris trying to warp reality again). | ||
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Well, thanks ^^
