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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:54 duckk wrote: people like you who are not even korean gm, and commenting on micro/balance are hilarious. In their defense, even korean gms have opposing opinions on balance, so it hardly has any meaning at all | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
If hots release widow mines were "balanced" once Zergs figured out how to play agaisnt them (last month of those mines was 50.3% winrate in favor of Zerg I think). Then how the hell is Zerg supposed to win with buffed tanks AND hellbats in addition? | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:56 DinoMight wrote: Hold on though. If hots release widow mines were "balanced." Then how the hell is Zerg supposed to win with buffed tanks AND hellbats in addition? Only avilo and his fanbase thinks mines were balanced at hots release | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:56 Lunareste wrote: I noticed you didn't list WCS for this season? Update pls?  hmm? | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:57 Zenbrez wrote: Only avilo and his fanbase thinks mines were balanced at hots release Not at release, but once Zergs learned to fight it (and got OS speed buff). | ||
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:56 Lunareste wrote: I noticed you didn't list WCS for this season? Update pls? He said Protoss was winning EVERYTHING, I proved him wrong, my list doesn't need updating. Try reading before mounting your high horse and parading it around. | ||
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nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
That's right boys and girls! The end of ZParcraft is near! \o/ | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
I mean, prioritizing air over ground could create some interesting opportunities. Not that I imagine it would be common, or even that successful, but there are probably some things that could come about from the more creative pros. | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:59 KatatoniK wrote: He said Protoss was winning EVERYTHING, I proved him wrong, my list doesn't need updating. Try reading before mounting your high horse and parading it around. When you're not able to understand hyperbole, you really shouldn't make idiotic arguments. He's exaggerating when he says that they're winning everything, but what he means is that Protoss is having an abnormally large amount of success for the past 6+ months, which is undeniable. Btw, Protoss sweeping WCS might be relevant to your argument because it counters it. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:58 DinoMight wrote: Not at release, but once Zergs learned to fight it (and got OS speed buff). We will see how things evolve. There probably will have a huge spike in terran's favor. There's no denying it. But it will eventually even out like it did before the WMs nerf. | ||
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bosshd
Belgium72 Posts
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
On July 23 2014 04:03 felisconcolori wrote: I foresee a new zerg versus terran strategy. Make about 4 mutas. Once the thors come out, mass roaches and send the overlords in first. I mean, prioritizing air over ground could create some interesting opportunities. Not that I imagine it would be common, or even that successful, but there are probably some things that could come about from the more creative pros. Don't Thors prioritise actual threats first thus the overlords won't get targeted? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:00 c0ldfusion wrote: is this really going to shift the meta in PvT that much? Hmm... No, that's why he's talking about doing even more changes. This patch addresses primarily TvZ concerns. | ||
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[BSP]Kain
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
The mine changes seems a bit strong tho. Unless Im reading it wrong its basically reverting it back to what WM was on release + shield damage buff? Seems strong. WM in TvZ was strong but fun to watch, since zergs were running suicide bomber lings ala DT drops on spider mines in BW, but for TvP as long as it stops the stupid Blink strats properly again I think it should be fine already. Still, the fact that this game used to rape my laptop up and down doesnt change the fact that I wont be playing for the fear of my poor laptop >_> | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
magic damage that high burst in that quantity really makes upgrades less impactful, it makes economy less impactful.. id like the widow mine a lot better if it wasn't spell damage, it would be a lot more interesting if you could actually upgrade out of 1-2 hit kill zone in aoe, much like every other aoe in the game that don't cost mana. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On July 23 2014 04:05 KatatoniK wrote: Don't Thors prioritise actual threats first thus the overlords won't get targeted? Good point. I'm not sure, I was only Zerg for one season and I'm horrible to begin with. But we'll see - it would be interesting to see if something like that could be done. Or maybe they could make the payload options worthwhile. Rarely ever see someone switch between AoE and Single Target on the air attack. (Going full Goliath upgrade for "air and ground fire at the same time" would be a bit much, but it would be fun as a terran.) | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 23 2014 04:10 darkscream wrote: oh man.. widow mines are a lot like wol fungal magic damage that high burst in that quantity really makes upgrades less impactful, it makes economy less impactful.. id like the widow mine a lot better if it wasn't spell damage, it would be a lot more interesting if you could actually upgrade out of 1-2 hit kill zone in aoe, much like every other aoe in the game that don't cost mana. The fact that it doesn't lock down units is still quite a huge difference :p | ||
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TW
Poland255 Posts
Taeja is the 4th Race, so pretty even win distribution :p +1 User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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