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Balance Patch Coming Soon - July 22 - Page 2

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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
July 22 2014 18:16 GMT
#21
I don't like this one, as it doesn't really address any issues whatsoever.


Welp, gotta start playing roach hydra in ZvT.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
July 22 2014 18:18 GMT
#22
On July 23 2014 03:13 Lunareste wrote:
buff tanks ;_;

just fucking buff tanks, blizzard.



this.

all this patch will do is make terrible terrans occasionally be able to beat better zergs with lucky skilless widowmine shots, and occasionally let worse zergs beat better terrans with widowmine selfkills...

Tanks require very good strategy positioning and target fire, widow mines require nothing? Possibly make an upgrade at the armory that gives tank whatever their original damage was (55-60?), and possibly an upgrade to reduce siege time. (buffing the tank without nerfing the raven and sh would create a ton of problems mech tvz though).
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 22 2014 18:21 GMT
#23
TaeJa might start to win some tournaments now...
~~(,,ºº>
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 22 2014 18:22 GMT
#24
On July 23 2014 03:14 DinoMight wrote:
I might start opening 2 Robos lol.

One for nonstop Observers and one for actual Robo units.


Why not 3 robos?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#25
On July 23 2014 03:16 TW wrote:
Soon means when?

As slow as Blizzard usually is with stuff, they've been pretty fast of churning out sc2 balance patches after announcing them.
Refer to my post.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 18:25:31
July 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#26
On July 23 2014 03:18 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:13 Lunareste wrote:
buff tanks ;_;

just fucking buff tanks, blizzard.



this.

all this patch will do is make terrible terrans occasionally be able to beat better zergs with lucky skilless widowmine shots, and occasionally let worse zergs beat better terrans with widowmine selfkills...

Tanks require very good strategy positioning and target fire, widow mines require nothing? Possibly make an upgrade at the armory that gives tank whatever their original damage was (55-60?), and possibly an upgrade to reduce siege time. (buffing the tank without nerfing the raven and sh would create a ton of problems mech tvz though).


people like you claiming there is no micro/positionning with wm play are hilarious.

On July 23 2014 03:22 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:14 DinoMight wrote:
I might start opening 2 Robos lol.

One for nonstop Observers and one for actual Robo units.


Why not 3 robos?


when you float 1k/1k it's definitely doable.
Zest fanboy.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
July 22 2014 18:27 GMT
#27
They're actually going ahead with ALL those suggestions? The Thor one was the only good one there :/

PvZ is about to get seriously messy with that TW change. 100 energy for 10 second duration, what a horrible, horrible joke. There's much better ways of fixing TW, try those instead.

As for the mine buff, just lol. Yeah Blizz, buff Terran mid-game where they're already stupidly strong instead of fixing the ACTUAL problem of T having no late game.

Really not impressed with this patch at all, it fixes absolutely nothing.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 22 2014 18:28 GMT
#28
On July 23 2014 03:22 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:14 DinoMight wrote:
I might start opening 2 Robos lol.

One for nonstop Observers and one for actual Robo units.


Why not 3 robos?


Fuck it, if I meet you on ladder Faust I'm going 4 robos, mark my words.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Scoobers
Profile Joined May 2013
48 Posts
July 22 2014 18:29 GMT
#29
Unleash the kraken... uhm I mean Terrans
But on a more serious note, I wish the just buffed the tank and thor vs zerg so that they can fill the mines role and just nerfed all the protoss early game all ins with for eg turret without ebay or pf nexus vs bio nerf so they cant just proxy random shit in a random location and always at least break even or ahead.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 22 2014 18:31 GMT
#30
On July 23 2014 03:27 KatatoniK wrote:
As for the mine buff, just lol. Yeah Blizz, buff Terran mid-game where they're already stupidly strong instead of fixing the ACTUAL problem of T having no late game.


Disagree, actually. Terran late game army made of MMM, Vikings and Ghost can deal with Protoss Deathball effectively. Getting to late game on even footing is harder when they have to worry about certain allins.

So if they are a little stronger in the mid-game, it lets them catch up economically and recover from that super early blind Engineering bay they made, for example.

I just fucking hate widow mines.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 22 2014 18:33 GMT
#31
I like that they realize the change is substantial and are going to go ahead and roll it out anyway. They tend to shy away from anything that makes a "substantial" impact on gameplay.

A lot of players are going to start showing us some sick micro, I believe, when adapting to these changes. I personally really like the Time Warp change. Widow Mine might need a bit more tweaking, I think. But we'll see.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 22 2014 18:35 GMT
#32
On July 23 2014 03:31 DinoMight wrote:
I just fucking hate widow mines.


I also hate Widow Mines. They're not fun to use as a Terran player, they're infuriating to play against and I find them pretty boring to watch in pro matches since there's little micro involved once they're burrowed.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
July 22 2014 18:35 GMT
#33
So can I put high impact payload on my thors and expect them to smack colossus from really far away now?
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 22 2014 18:36 GMT
#34
On July 23 2014 03:35 blacksheepwall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:31 DinoMight wrote:
I just fucking hate widow mines.


I also hate Widow Mines. They're not fun to use as a Terran player, they're infuriating to play against and I find them pretty boring to watch in pro matches since there's little micro involved once they're burrowed.


David Kim won't shut up about how exciting they are to watch. He really really likes them.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 22 2014 18:36 GMT
#35
On July 23 2014 03:35 Digitalis wrote:
So can I put high impact payload on my thors and expect them to smack colossus from really far away now?


No. They always see Colos as ground units.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
July 22 2014 18:37 GMT
#36
On July 23 2014 03:14 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:13 Lunareste wrote:
buff tanks ;_;

just fucking buff tanks, blizzard.


TvT

Most people ask for a +shield bonus component for the siege tank's attack, or for a change to hardened shields. It won't affect TvT that way.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 22 2014 18:38 GMT
#37
zergs are gonna get vaporized, unnerfed mines, free hellbats and buffed tanks, gl all

meanwhile protoss will continue to win everything
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
July 22 2014 18:39 GMT
#38
GomTvT will be reborn again :D TERRRRAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 22 2014 18:40 GMT
#39
Sigh. This is really not what they should have done. Also it doesnt touch PvT in any way shape or form imo (other than makin scv pull stronger, hooray!) ;(
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Terence Chill
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany112 Posts
July 22 2014 18:42 GMT
#40
brb uninstall

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