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Code S Finals - Classic vs soO Preview - Season 2

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Code S Finals - Classic vs soO Preview - Season 2

Text bystuchiu
Graphics byshiroiusagi
June 27th, 2014 07:00 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

GSL Season Two
Code S Finals



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Code S Finals: Classic vs soO


by stuchiu

Classic’s Legacy


In the din of MLG Dallas 2012, the crowd roared with euphoria. Here were the titans of Brood War. Finally unleashed into the world of SC2. The greatest of the old game had come like a tidal wave crashing down onto the shores of the SC2 world. Their names reverberated through the entire hall, names like Fantasy, Stork, Bisu, Flash, Jaedong, and Leta had captured the imaginations of the fans and audiences. These were giants of Brood War. They had carried with them all of their experience, skills and legacies for all to see. They were to be the future of SC2 as the champions of Brood War fought the new champions of SC2 in a battle for supremacy.

It was a false prophecy. None of the old champions of Brood War beyond Jaedong and Flash have ever challenged for a title. Even with the Tyrant's modest success, he has yet to be considered among the best Zergs and his legacy in SC2 has reads more like a Kong's than a champion's. Flash's lone appearance in a final was at an MLG when HoTS was still in its infancy. Rather, it would be the 2013 Proleague Finals where many of the future Champions of SC2 arose. It was a desperate battle between STX_Soul and Woongjin Stars. Neither team had been to a final in ten years. Neither had ever won a Proleague title. Both teams were on the verge of disbanding. But both got to that finals on the strength of their skills alone. Those Kespa players that were invited to MLG were invited on their name value alone. But the players here earned their place in the finals by right of conquest. And after their climactic battle they dispersed.

And many of them went on to dominate the scene. Soulkey won WCS KR 1 and became the best Zerg of 2013. Innovation won WCS Season 1 Finals and was one of the most feared players of 2013. sOs became the Million Dollar Man. Dear walked back-to-back Royal Roads. Trap just won MLG Anaheim. And now it is (P)Classic’s turn.

Classic. The heir to two legacies with the soul of STX and the training of an SKT player. He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL. Before this season he was an invaluable member of the SKT lineup; a solid Proleague player that has earned his spot ahead of old timers like ParalyzE and FanTaSy. But that was all he was. Just one solid player amidst champions. On STX, it used to be Innovation before his other teammates started to come to the fore, like Dear and Trap. And all he could do was watch from afar as his ex-teammates took championship after championship after championship.

And his new team, SKT wasn’t any different. Rain to his left. Parting to his right. Soulkey behind him. For a player so often in the company of Champions, did Classic ever wonder when it would be his turn to rise, his turn to challenge for the title? For Classic, he has waited 6 years. He made his debut in Brood War as a Terran in Proleague. 4 years later he switched to SC2 before realizing that with his career on the line, switching races was the right thing to do. 1 year after that he went on to challenge for the PL Finals with STX. And now, here on SKT T1 he will finally have his chance to fight for the most prestigious title in SC2, the title of the strongest. And all he has to do is defeat soO one more time.

The Silver Lining


At this point in (Z)soO’s career, the question is no longer whether he is the best Zerg player in the world. The question is if any Zerg is within the same stratosphere of skill as he is right now. RorO is dead in Code A. Jaedong was gone in Ro32. Life went down in the ro16. Soulkey failed in the ro8. And soO? Back-to-back-to-back GSL Finals. There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive Code S finals, the hardest tournament in the world.

And in many ways, soO’s path to this finals was once again against all expectations and beliefs. On the other hand, Classic came from a team of Champions and then went on to join a team of Champions. Both teams were famed for their Protoss line-ups. He was a valuable member in Proleague and was consistently doing better and better and better in individual leagues. While many weren’t expecting him to reach a title challenge so soon, very few were surprised when he did.

When soO made his first ever finals, it was against everything every SKT fan had ever believed in. He was the heir to the line of the T1 Zerg, a line that was known for its mediocrity and disappointment. soO was supposed to fail. He was supposed to disappoint. Instead he was SKT’s last hope for a championship that season. So when he lost, his run was quickly forgotten as many jumped on the Dear bandwagon.

And then the season after that soO once again made it to the GSL finals. If making it to the GSL Finals once wasn’t enough to convince people he was one of the best zergs in the world, making it to the GSL finals twice forced them to pay attention. He was the second ever to make it to consecutive GSL finals (after Mvp) and had defeated the hardest the world had to field against him twice to make it this far.

And again, soO lost. And once again, soO clawed his way back to another GSL Finals. If reaching the pinnacle of the sport twice in succession still wasn't enough to convince us all that he was the best Zerg in the world, his third finals in a row should have banished all his doubters. soO has broken records and written a story of his own. He was no longer just a “T1 Zerg”. He was SKT1_soO. The best Zerg in the world. The first to ever reach three finals in a row. In a time when SC2 is at its most competitive, when players can go from top 2 at Blizzcon to out in the ro32 to 6 pylons, soO is making consistency look easy.

But with all stories, comes conflict, and now soO must fight the legacy he has inadvertently joined. The legacy that plagued MKP his entire career. The legacy that Yellow could never escape. The legacy of the Kong. If soO loses here, this will be the third time he will have lost a GSL finals. The third time he will have lost to a Protoss. And the fans are clamoring for it, demanding it, almost salivating for it. A gold after two silvers makes a nice story about hard work. But three silvers and you are MKP reborn. The Yellow of SC2. The man to inherit the silver stool of MKP. soO must fight with all his might to escape this destiny that seems almost inevitable in the eyes of his disbelievers.

Overall thoughts and predictions


PvZ has been one of Classic’s better matchups so far this year. He likes to play classic Collosus Void Ray macro styles and generally takes it to the late game. Or he likes to end it early with his cannon rushes. While many credit sOs as the king of the cannons in Korea, Classic has been just as prolific and possibly even more successful in cannon rushes than his Jin_Air counterpart.

As for soO, it should be noted that beyond Zest, he barely ever loses ZvPs. He made the muta-corruptor style famous and the only alternative to Swarm Hosts for late game macro ZvPs. The most notable thing about his run is that he beat Trap, herO and Parting fairly convincingly, but ended up losing his group stage games to Classic.

And to further complicate matters is how TRUE beat Zest. He used a completely new style of ZvP with mass queens, lings and corruptors. And soO has proven himself to be an adept learner of new styles before and can very well adopt TRUE’s style to beat any pre-emptive mass Stargate builds Classic might use to hard counter soO’s typical Muta-Corruptor style.

Another important factor to consider is the fact that they are both teammates and have probably seen everything that the other has to offer, making this finals an extremely mind-game intensive one. Because of that, I favor Classic slightly. He may be the more inexperienced player, but he doesn’t have to deal with the pressure of becoming MKP reborn if he loses. On top of that, soO’s openers are generally hatch first or 15 pool leaving Classic the choice to cannon rush or nexus first with impunity.

(P)Classic 4 - 3 (Z)soO
(P)Classic <King Sejong Station> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Alterzim Stronghold> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Frost> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Habitation Station> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Overgrowth> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Merry Go Round> (Z)soO
(P)Classic <Waystation> (Z)soO


Writers: stuchiu
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Photo Credit: thisisgame.com
Editor: lichter.
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Picasso
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)52 Posts
June 27 2014 07:19 GMT
#2
it's about time soO takes home something other than 2nd place, but at the same time Classic is reaching his first finals after 6 years of progaming... dunno who to root for
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 07:27:38
June 27 2014 07:23 GMT
#3
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
June 27 2014 07:25 GMT
#4
It will be awesome if classic cannon rush 4 times to win the champion.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
June 27 2014 07:26 GMT
#5
Go soO!
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Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 27 2014 07:30 GMT
#6
soO has to win this.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
June 27 2014 07:31 GMT
#7
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

Good catch! But there's no arguing which of the two is the more impressive feat...

soO fighting! I never liked classic much for some reason, maybe always felt he was the baby toss out of parting/rain/classic
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
June 27 2014 07:33 GMT
#8
soojwa fighting!
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 27 2014 07:35 GMT
#9
I believe in soO but I want Classic to win.
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
June 27 2014 07:47 GMT
#10
Not the final i was hoping for at the start of the season. High tier players but not the best, this match should have been quarters at best. I Think Classic wins this 4-3.
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
June 27 2014 07:49 GMT
#11
He's just soO good at this game. LET'S GO SOO!
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
June 27 2014 07:57 GMT
#12
I think it was actually MLG Anaheim that the Kespa players made their first appearance...
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
June 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#13
On June 27 2014 16:31 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

Good catch! But there's no arguing which of the two is the more impressive feat...

I'm not saying it is but this fact is said in the 2nd part of the sentence:
much less three consecutive finals in the hardest tournament in the world.
.
Obviously GSL finals are way more impressive. Actually 3 GSL silvers are more impressive than 3 HSC golds.
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
June 27 2014 08:00 GMT
#14
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Championship/KeSPA_Exhibition_Tournament
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 08:19:13
June 27 2014 08:18 GMT
#15
truly hope that soOjwa takes it, for his sanity
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 08:25:01
June 27 2014 08:22 GMT
#16
On June 27 2014 16:58 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:31 yubo56 wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

Good catch! But there's no arguing which of the two is the more impressive feat...

I'm not saying it is but this fact is said in the 2nd part of the sentence:
Show nested quote +
much less three consecutive finals in the hardest tournament in the world.
.
Obviously GSL finals are way more impressive. Actually 3 GSL silvers are more impressive than 3 HSC golds.


How does everyone forget so fast? MC is two games away from his fourth consecutive WCS finals, he already did what soO has just done two months ago
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
June 27 2014 08:38 GMT
#17
On June 27 2014 17:22 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:58 nimdil wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:31 yubo56 wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

Good catch! But there's no arguing which of the two is the more impressive feat...

I'm not saying it is but this fact is said in the 2nd part of the sentence:
much less three consecutive finals in the hardest tournament in the world.
.
Obviously GSL finals are way more impressive. Actually 3 GSL silvers are more impressive than 3 HSC golds.


How does everyone forget so fast? MC is two games away from his fourth consecutive WCS finals, he already did what soO has just done two months ago


I'm pretty sure Mvp was in 3 consecutive finals of GSL at one point, but the facct is MC and Mvp are all more accomplished players than soO, also MC has 3 consecutive finals in WCS EU, not GSL, WCS EU is much easier than GSL, even if MC is the numberr one player in terms of rankings now, he is not better than soO, but he did appear in 3 GSL finals before, the two he won and the one with Seed
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
June 27 2014 08:47 GMT
#18
Poll: Cuddles for morale encouragement and pleasure?

*Cuddles Flash* (42)
 
69%

*Cuddles soO* (14)
 
23%

*Cuddles Classic* (5)
 
8%

61 total votes

Your vote: Cuddles for morale encouragement and pleasure?

(Vote): *Cuddles soO*
(Vote): *Cuddles Classic*
(Vote): *Cuddles Flash*


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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 27 2014 08:49 GMT
#19
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

if talking about "history of SC2", yes, they count.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
June 27 2014 09:00 GMT
#20
This series should be fun. I kind of hope soO wins... He works so hard and yet has been the bridesmaid twice.

Either way, though, SKT1 will have another major tournament champion. ^^
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
June 27 2014 09:04 GMT
#21
Go Classic!
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
June 27 2014 09:16 GMT
#22
Last season Zest had a hard time beating soO, Classic has pretty low chance here. Aligulac has different opinion though.
+ Show Spoiler +
        (1829) soO  0-0  Classic (1919)    
-------------------------------------------
4.49% 4-0 0-4 8.48%
9.69% 4-1 1-4 15.62%
13.08% 4-2 2-4 17.98%
14.11% 4-3 3-4 16.55%
-------------------------------------------
41.37% 58.63%

Median outcome: soO 3-4 Classic

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
June 27 2014 09:19 GMT
#23
If soO wins there won't be a back-to-back-to-back-to-back GSL finals as he will find satisfaction to finally breath and relax. That's why I want Classic to win. It will also make soO's story more dramatic than ever, hohoho.
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
June 27 2014 09:35 GMT
#24
about time we get a new kong :>
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
June 27 2014 10:31 GMT
#25
i feel soos victory depends if he wants to use SH on 2 player maps.
Nripesh
Profile Joined December 2013
France7 Posts
June 27 2014 10:40 GMT
#26
SoO diserves to win. Classic = Protoss = Diserves nuthin at all.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 27 2014 10:42 GMT
#27
Come on Classic, join your former STX brothers in the hall of champions!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 27 2014 10:52 GMT
#28
HSC come on is this a joke
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MysterySC
Profile Joined October 2012
Andorra109 Posts
June 27 2014 11:23 GMT
#29
Acting like flash and JD are good at SC2 is such a waste of time... one gets mailed to more tourneys than any other korean and the other actually has 0 results
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Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
June 27 2014 11:29 GMT
#30
I think we are going to see soo classic PvZs.
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
June 27 2014 11:31 GMT
#31
remember when everyone was hating on soo and was wishing for him to get crushed by jangbi in osl?
oh how times change
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 27 2014 11:32 GMT
#32
Poor stuchiu getting another prediction wrong
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
June 27 2014 11:42 GMT
#33
Hmmm Soo gets to train with Parting and Rain while Classic gets Dark and Soulkey. I feel Soo will win at 4-3.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
June 27 2014 12:23 GMT
#34
On June 27 2014 19:40 Nripesh wrote:
SoO diserves to win. Classic = Protoss = Diserves nuthin at all.


Hey, if you really feel that way about Protoss...

[Morpheus voice] You have a choice to make. If you pick soO, the cycle of imba is broken, the game remains the same and you can believe whatever you want to. If you take Classic, the imba is revealed, and I show you what nerfs might be coming... [/Morpheus voice]
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 12:26:49
June 27 2014 12:26 GMT
#35
Isn't it like first time from 3 when soO is predicted to lose? TIME TO GET THIS GOLD.
<3

On June 27 2014 18:16 KappaKingPrime wrote:
Last season Zest had a hard time beating soO, Classic has pretty low chance here. Aligulac has different opinion though.
+ Show Spoiler +
        (1829) soO  0-0  Classic (1919)    
-------------------------------------------
4.49% 4-0 0-4 8.48%
9.69% 4-1 1-4 15.62%
13.08% 4-2 2-4 17.98%
14.11% 4-3 3-4 16.55%
-------------------------------------------
41.37% 58.63%

Median outcome: soO 3-4 Classic

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


It was more of soO losing to himself last time than Zest winning it.
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 27 2014 12:37 GMT
#36
classic plz win so soo can get to a 4th gsl final
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
June 27 2014 12:40 GMT
#37
On June 27 2014 17:38 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 17:22 coloursheep wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:58 nimdil wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:31 yubo56 wrote:
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?

Good catch! But there's no arguing which of the two is the more impressive feat...

I'm not saying it is but this fact is said in the 2nd part of the sentence:
much less three consecutive finals in the hardest tournament in the world.
.
Obviously GSL finals are way more impressive. Actually 3 GSL silvers are more impressive than 3 HSC golds.


How does everyone forget so fast? MC is two games away from his fourth consecutive WCS finals, he already did what soO has just done two months ago


I'm pretty sure Mvp was in 3 consecutive finals of GSL at one point, but the facct is MC and Mvp are all more accomplished players than soO, also MC has 3 consecutive finals in WCS EU, not GSL, WCS EU is much easier than GSL, even if MC is the numberr one player in terms of rankings now, he is not better than soO, but he did appear in 3 GSL finals before, the two he won and the one with Seed

MC - Right.
Mvp - He wasn't.
He won the first non open season, then MC won a season, then he won GSL WC, then NesTea won, then Polt won SuperTournament, then NesTea won, then Mvp won, then Mvp lost to MMA and then it was jjakji vs Leenock.

Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
June 27 2014 14:00 GMT
#38
The map wins and losses felt a bit odd. SoO winning Alterzim and Habitation? Hrm.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 27 2014 14:11 GMT
#39
4-1 classic
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
June 27 2014 14:17 GMT
#40
go soOjwa
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 27 2014 14:22 GMT
#41
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.
Automation
Profile Joined June 2014
6 Posts
June 27 2014 14:24 GMT
#42
MC was in 3 WCS Europe Finals in a row (and I'm hoping for a 4th >.<) am I wrong?
frosecold
Profile Joined January 2011
Venezuela76 Posts
June 27 2014 14:38 GMT
#43
I'm a toss player... But i want soO to win, he deserves it, he is very very good, and if he doesnt win, i think maybe a balance should be addressed
Being a pro its not easy at all, i know it,i cant be one
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 14:41:47
June 27 2014 14:40 GMT
#44
On June 27 2014 23:22 duckk wrote:
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.


Rofl, please.
If it was Classic who made 3 finals in a row and soO was best Zerg in Proleague for a year, you would have said that it's soO who doesn't deserve shit.

There are too many top Protosses right now, can you say top-3? Without a single doubt? Or at least top-5?
Yes, we know that soO is best Zerg, yes, we know that Maru is best Terran.

On June 27 2014 23:00 Heartland wrote:
The map wins and losses felt a bit odd. SoO winning Alterzim and Habitation? Hrm.


Funnily enough, those were 2 maps which soO threw. Well, as well as Yeonsu, in last finals.
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Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
June 27 2014 14:41 GMT
#45
I would've loved to see a Terran in the finals. Well, better luck next time

Meanwhile, I'll be cheering on the Zerg players to eradicate the protoss scum.
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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
June 27 2014 14:44 GMT
#46
I really want soO to lose this. Another 2nd place title fits him better than a first place.
Jaedong <3
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
June 27 2014 15:35 GMT
#47
He was the second ever to make it to consecutive GSL finals (after Mvp) and had defeated the hardest the world had to field against him twice to make it this far.


Eh, the wording on that is technically correct, but Nestea also won two consecutive code S finals.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 27 2014 16:01 GMT
#48
soO got this
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 27 2014 16:04 GMT
#49
It's still hard to see soO as a favorite even with 3 GSL finals appearances in a row. He went Ro4/Ro8 in the last two BW OSLs and was coming up as an important player in SKT's PL lineup but his SC2 run still caught people by surprise. Many lesser BW players were hyped up more than him during the transition to SC2.

Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
June 27 2014 16:06 GMT
#50
On June 27 2014 16:47 Fus wrote:
Not the final i was hoping for at the start of the season. High tier players but not the best, this match should have been quarters at best. I Think Classic wins this 4-3.

Who would you consider better?
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 27 2014 16:08 GMT
#51
On June 27 2014 23:40 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 23:22 duckk wrote:
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.


Rofl, please.
If it was Classic who made 3 finals in a row and soO was best Zerg in Proleague for a year, you would have said that it's soO who doesn't deserve shit.

There are too many top Protosses right now, can you say top-3? Without a single doubt? Or at least top-5?
Yes, we know that soO is best Zerg, yes, we know that Maru is best Terran.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 23:00 Heartland wrote:
The map wins and losses felt a bit odd. SoO winning Alterzim and Habitation? Hrm.


Funnily enough, those were 2 maps which soO threw. Well, as well as Yeonsu, in last finals.


? or maybe it is because I frequently play both soo and classic on ladder and notice a clear skill difference is both strategy and micro/macro. Maru is very skilled and arguably one of the best terrans, but he is not the very best... silly boy lol.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 27 2014 16:11 GMT
#52
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
June 27 2014 16:18 GMT
#53
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
June 27 2014 16:24 GMT
#54
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?


probably they forgot taht since HSC pales in comparison to a Code S Final appearance
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
June 27 2014 16:24 GMT
#55
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 27 2014 16:35 GMT
#56
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 16:23 nimdil wrote:
There has never been a player in the history of SC2 to make it to three consecutive finals

Do TaeJa's 3 consecutive HSCs count?


probably they forgot taht since HSC pales in comparison to a Code S Final appearance

I bet someone made 3 consecutive zotac finals. Like HyuN or Revival
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 27 2014 16:38 GMT
#57
"when players can go from top 2 at Blizzcon to out in the ro32 to 6 pylons, soO is making consistency look easy." looool
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 27 2014 16:43 GMT
#58
On June 27 2014 23:22 duckk wrote:
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.


What will your excuse be after the finals when nothing like this happens, and why is Classic in the finals if he is Ro8 material at best?
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
June 27 2014 16:47 GMT
#59
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve
maru G5L pls
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
June 27 2014 17:04 GMT
#60
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

Puzzle, Coca, Yugioh too
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 17:40:55
June 27 2014 17:40 GMT
#61
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 27 2014 17:48 GMT
#62
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

god
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JimdSC
Profile Joined June 2014
2 Posts
June 27 2014 18:02 GMT
#63
I'm so happy to have a SKT1 finals, since it's my favorite team. I'm gonna give a slight edge to Classic on this one, but I think it'll be close. Both have a shot at winning.
Gevrosche
Profile Joined May 2014
20 Posts
June 27 2014 18:26 GMT
#64
I don't see Classic winning this at all, even though soO is close to becoming the next MKP he still is close to becoming the first sc2 bonjwa. Even though I have soO winning this will most definitely be a 4-3 or a 4-2 for soO.
"Quotes are for dumb people who can't think of something intelligent to say on their own."- Bo Burnham
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
June 27 2014 18:52 GMT
#65
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt


Yes 2 polt's on the same PL team would be quite awesome.
Life..
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 27 2014 19:01 GMT
#66
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt


TSLLife?
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 27 2014 19:38 GMT
#67
so hype for this. So ready!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 27 2014 19:58 GMT
#68
On June 28 2014 04:01 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt


TSLLife?

everyone knows Zenex is the best dead team.
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
June 27 2014 20:03 GMT
#69

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

Note though that this is the terran Rain, not SKT1Rain
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 27 2014 20:06 GMT
#70
On June 28 2014 05:03 Redrot wrote:
Show nested quote +

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

Note though that this is the terran Rain, not SKT1Rain

Rain vs Boxer on Metalopolis at MLG, never forget T > T
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 21:30:11
June 27 2014 21:28 GMT
#71
On June 28 2014 04:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 04:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt


TSLLife?

everyone knows Zenex is the best dead team.

Life
Byun
Genius
Hack
Puzzle
Coca
Avenge
Pet
Suhoshin

And of course LegalMind

EDIT: Though yea Zombie TSL would be a monster to deal with, that list doesn't even include Center (also ex Azubu), Tester, aLive, or Heart
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
June 27 2014 22:42 GMT
#72
Good read but I don't know how you can say JD "has yet to be considered among the best Zergs" after last year. Maybe not all-time best yet (Nestea, DRG, Life, etc. easily hold that) but he was definitely one of the best of 2013...

Anyways, speaking of best zergs, hoping soO finally gets his long deserved GSL title!
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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 01:27:18
June 28 2014 01:26 GMT
#73
On June 28 2014 05:06 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 05:03 Redrot wrote:

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

Note though that this is the terran Rain, not SKT1Rain

Rain vs Boxer on Metalopolis at MLG, never forget T > T

oh baby thats some sweet stuff

edit: soO hwaiting! although it would be so funny yet sad if he got a 3rd 2nd place...

also whats up with his PL record? its so mediocre for a player who is currently the definition of consistency.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
June 28 2014 01:27 GMT
#74
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

ZeNEX.Life
Polt.Prime aka Optimus.Prime
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 01:47:22
June 28 2014 01:46 GMT
#75
On June 28 2014 06:28 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 04:58 Shellshock wrote:
On June 28 2014 04:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


+ Show Spoiler +

innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


vs

+ Show Spoiler +
boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt


TSLLife?

everyone knows Zenex is the best dead team.

Life
Byun
Genius
Hack
Puzzle
Coca
Avenge
Pet
Suhoshin

And of course LegalMind

EDIT: Though yea Zombie TSL would be a monster to deal with, that list doesn't even include Center (also ex Azubu), Tester, aLive, or Heart

San and TaeJa were also on Zenex as well as Cutter who spared everyone his wrath
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#76
Hoping for Classic and some exciting games!
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
June 28 2014 05:14 GMT
#77
This might actually be soo's time to win
Traditionally he does well until he meets a team mate or someone who is legitimately good at Starcraft
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VavPK
Profile Joined May 2011
United States196 Posts
June 28 2014 05:19 GMT
#78
On June 27 2014 16:47 Fus wrote:
Not the final i was hoping for at the start of the season. High tier players but not the best, this match should have been quarters at best. I Think Classic wins this 4-3.


You just sound salty that your likely favorite player is out. Do not take away from these players and say they don't deserve it, if they didn't they wouldn't be here. SoO wins 4-2 or 4-3.
memorexcd
Profile Joined December 2012
United States47 Posts
June 28 2014 06:35 GMT
#79
lol incontrol pylon
asdf
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
June 28 2014 06:53 GMT
#80
Gom going for the 1game/hour again?
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 08:33:16
June 28 2014 08:25 GMT
#81
I'm subscribed to Gom at twitch and for the first time i can't watch in high quality, anyone else with that problem?

Edit: Seems they fixed it.
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 28 2014 08:49 GMT
#82
On June 27 2014 23:00 Heartland wrote:
The map wins and losses felt a bit odd. SoO winning Alterzim and Habitation? Hrm.


yo
Moderator
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 10:23:31
June 28 2014 08:55 GMT
#83
sOo should just be responsive all games like he did on Alterzim.Thrice the 2nd place is no fun and a humiliating scenario on his side. SoO is a fucking beast at ro16, ro8 to ro4 but then he transforms completely like a scrub in the finals.soO the best zerg at the moment? Well, his zvz and zvt's at best but is not comparable to Solar's or Byul's ZvP or RoRo's.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
June 28 2014 09:04 GMT
#84
On June 28 2014 17:49 stuchiu wrote:
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On June 27 2014 23:00 Heartland wrote:
The map wins and losses felt a bit odd. SoO winning Alterzim and Habitation? Hrm.


yo

Wow, you predicted 5/6 of the maps correctly; only Overgrowth went the other way.
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
June 28 2014 09:32 GMT
#85
waht a wonder toss wins ;D
http://www.twitch.tv/jokersfun
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 10:29:55
June 28 2014 10:22 GMT
#86
SoO's ZvP is so beastly around ro32, ro16 and was only wrecked by Classic in r08, notalble protosses he killed were sOs and cj hero both have good pvz.Classic's wreckage to soO continues in the finals. I just don't understand sOo. LOL. WOuld have been better if this was sOo vs Maru finals.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Enigmasc
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom147 Posts
June 28 2014 11:00 GMT
#87
i duno why went muta that last game
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 28 2014 11:24 GMT
#88
lol! classic won~
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ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
June 28 2014 12:00 GMT
#89
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_indigo_
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia171 Posts
June 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#90
GLORIOUS!

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I have seen it all, and everything is just as senseless as chasing the wind.
JokerAi
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany142 Posts
June 28 2014 16:38 GMT
#91
the last 4 Gsl winner was toss why you guys surprised? The last patches change nothing on toss so it was sure a toss wins. We look to other Tournaments why Teaja wins? Becouse in the Tournaments was no realy good Tossplayer at his skilllevel.

User was warned for this post
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
June 28 2014 16:59 GMT
#92
On June 29 2014 01:38 JokerAi wrote:
the last 4 Gsl winner was toss why you guys surprised? The last patches change nothing on toss so it was sure a toss wins. We look to other Tournaments why Teaja wins? Becouse in the Tournaments was no realy good Tossplayer at his skilllevel.


You're an idiot.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 18:12:47
June 28 2014 18:12 GMT
#93
Poor SoO. His three second place finishes combined don't pay as much as one first place finish in WCS KR. I really don't like that. WCS EU has a better prize distribution, IMO. MC got $25,000 for first place and MMA got $15,000 for second.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 18:19:52
June 28 2014 18:19 GMT
#94
On June 27 2014 23:22 duckk wrote:
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.


gotta feel a little silly with that confidence now.

would have loved to have seen soO win... he was so due and deserved it. unfortunate. are there VODs up?
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Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
June 28 2014 18:21 GMT
#95
i didn't realize classic was a teammate of soo
soo doesn't beat teammates in important games
post to be
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stubzi
Profile Joined April 2013
30 Posts
June 29 2014 07:29 GMT
#96
Disappointing finals. Classic didn't even seem to play extremely well, his macro was very off which the commentators picked up on. He had nearly 2k mins and gas for so long with lots of available supply and still managed to win.

I wonder if a Protoss will win again next year.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
June 29 2014 07:42 GMT
#97
On June 29 2014 03:19 Cluster__ wrote:
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On June 27 2014 23:22 duckk wrote:
Wow people are really unaware of the skillgap between soo and classic. Unless soo does not prepare at all he will win 4-0. Skillwise Classic should have made it to the ro8 at best... we will see though.


gotta feel a little silly with that confidence now.

would have loved to have seen soO win... he was so due and deserved it. unfortunate. are there VODs up?


It was evident soo practiced zvp and not zvclassic. Ask anybody else who has recently played both soo and classic and they will say soo is far far better. However preparation is the most important thing for this format as we saw with nestea for a long while. Better luck next season soo.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 29 2014 08:02 GMT
#98
On June 29 2014 03:12 Salient wrote:
Poor SoO. His three second place finishes combined don't pay as much as one first place finish in WCS KR. I really don't like that. WCS EU has a better prize distribution, IMO. MC got $25,000 for first place and MMA got $15,000 for second.


Pretty sure the Korean players asked for a more top heavy prize distribution.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 29 2014 08:03 GMT
#99
On June 28 2014 10:27 DiMano wrote:
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On June 28 2014 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:47 neptunusfisk wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:24 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:18 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 28 2014 01:11 Die4Ever wrote:
"He will now be the 4th player from the old STX line to challenge for a title, and the third to challenge for the hardest title in the world, the GSL."
holy shit lol, best ded team since oGs

IDK, slayers is a pretty good dead team.



PLS bring back STXSouL


STX is a top heavy punch and Slayers is more a huge pool of talent that never came to fruition.


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innovation, dear, trap, classic, hyvaa and the BW dudds hero, modesty, mini, shuttle


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boxer, taeja, mma, crank, alicia, ryung, dark, ganzi, miya, genius, cella, dragon, eve

This cannot be argued. It is impressive the number of talented players in slayers though regardless.

TSL went through a lot of talent too. Imagine this team in PL today:
TSLFruitdealer
TSLPolt
TSLRain
TSLSymbol
TSLRagnaroK
TSLPuMa
TSLLife
TSLKiller
TSLJYP
TSLHyuN
TSLRevival
TSLPolt

ZeNEX.Life
Polt.Prime aka Optimus.Prime


Polt was the captain of TSL after leaving Prime though.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
June 29 2014 09:00 GMT
#100
On June 27 2014 20:23 MysterySC wrote:
Acting like flash and JD are good at SC2 is such a waste of time... one gets mailed to more tourneys than any other korean and the other actually has 0 results


dont compare Flash with JD, JD sucks, Flash was better than him in BW and he is still better than JD, at least he rocks in Proleague, JD sucks everywhere, in ATC, in WCS AM
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
June 29 2014 18:11 GMT
#101
Classic has had some nice builds this season, would be nice for him to win. Honestly just hoping for a good match- dont care too much about either of these players.
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