Hi! I feel that this season ALOT more ppl have been demoted than usual!

I know fellow norwegian players that have been mid master every season, Even one did meet GM's and stil got demoted

Myself i had 2100 points in master and got demoted. i knew 2500+ players that got demoted aswell.

is master league shrinking to 1% or somthing?

Anyone have a thought?

followZeRoX

Serbia1449 Posts

April 15 2014 07:43 GMT

yeah. im dia too.

MrMotionPicture

United States4327 Posts

April 15 2014 07:52 GMT

Well since you can no longer be demoted during the season, I think they do this to reset the ladder a little and make sure everyone is where they should be. I'm sure you'll get back to master in no time :3

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9172 Posts

April 15 2014 07:59 GMT

Well if the overall player pool is declining then Masters will get a smaller allocation. Combine this with no demotions in the season and you get a lot at the end. I haven't seen the stats but I wouldn't be surprised if the lower ranks were bleeding players to LoL, and especially Diablo/HS after recent releases. I expect it may eventually become like ICCUP where ranks like gold/platinum are ultra-competitive as the casuals continue to emigrate.

WeddingEpisode

United States356 Posts

April 15 2014 08:01 GMT

The season before last, wasn't the ladder harder?
But then last season it was made easier again like it used to be?
And now it's harder again?
We would have heard an announcement of some sort though, wouldn't we have if it were now adjusted
in some way yet again?

But I had this thought too because I was demoted - - but I wasn't playing well, so I don't know.

Cascade

Australia5405 Posts

April 15 2014 08:16 GMT

I should start playing 1on1 again, to push you guys up to the higher leagues!

Gere

Germany55 Posts

April 15 2014 08:38 GMT

Happened to me in 4v4 as well (despite winning the placement match!), which really sucks since there is some randomness and it's harder to climb just by skill

But it also happened last season. I played vs so many gold level teams at the beginning, which were very really good and clearly much higher than gold. So they had been demoted as well.

DjayEl

France252 Posts

April 15 2014 08:46 GMT

Demoted as well, despite being top 20 of my league with a 52% win ratio and not having undergone any loss streak before the end of the season... a bit weird, but anyway... it's a relative ranking system so why not. I'd love to see the stats of the player base league by league to understand what exactly is going on with the game.

[F_]aths

Germany3947 Posts

April 15 2014 08:50 GMT

I got from gold league to silver.

oGoZenob

France1503 Posts

April 15 2014 09:34 GMT

#10

I went 15-3 last season and get demoted last night -_-

Metalcore1993

New Zealand92 Posts

April 15 2014 09:45 GMT

#11

Forever diamond. No change. Even lost my placement

A.Alm

Sweden515 Posts

April 15 2014 09:49 GMT

#12

I've been in masters since the game came out and got demoted to Diamond this season.

I havn't played ladder in about a year (only placement game) and i finally got down to diamond so i can play people at my own skill. That "MMR decay" seems to take a while, lol.

korona

1098 Posts

April 15 2014 09:55 GMT

#13

Few days after the start of last season Blizzard only changed league thresholds & offsets. They did not change the MMR decay that lead to the trend that general population's MMR is decreasing. Thus it was expected that many would be demoted at the start of this season if there was no new changes to the thresholds / offsets. In other words they did not fix the main cause last season, but did a 'smoke and mirrors fix'.

More about MMR decay: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/429734-ladder-deflation-and-mmr-decay

Short description: If you are inactive in certain play mode for more than 2 weeks your MMR starts decaying. At 4 weeks mark decay reaches it maximum value that roughly equals 20 straight loss. Thus you have to play at least one match in each mode every 2 weeks to prevent this. But you will still be affected indirectly as many of your opponents have been affected directly.

The old max decay was ~310. The value was not verified after last season's offset changes, but it should be close or the same. The league MMR range size estimates last season were: b 280, s 260, g 290, p 235, d 450. Master range before low GM border was ~2.3 times max decay for EU and ~1.4 times max decay for NA

CoraBlue

United States24 Posts

April 15 2014 10:02 GMT

#14

I can't speak to masters, because I'm not that good, but I am also frustrated. I ended the season at bottom of plat, won my placement match, and got placed in silver. Its not a big deal because I'm going to roll kids, its just annoying and destroys my enthusiasm to play.

reapsen

Germany559 Posts

April 15 2014 10:05 GMT

#15

On April 15 2014 19:02 CoraBlue wrote:
I can't speak to masters, because I'm not that good, but I am also frustrated. I ended the season at bottom of plat, won my placement match, and got placed in silver. Its not a big deal because I'm going to roll kids, its just annoying and destroys my enthusiasm to play.

Why? Just don't give a fuck, play a couple of games and i promise you'll be back where you were in no time.

Its just a friggin placement at the beginning of the season, that has absolutely no meaning at all.... just try thinking of it from this perspective: "This way you get to see a promotion screen once again!"

Faust852

Luxembourg4004 Posts

April 15 2014 10:06 GMT

#16

I know some 2k3/2k4 masters that were demoted yes. Was harsh for them :/

xsnac

Barbados1365 Posts

April 15 2014 10:12 GMT

#17

well i started this season 2-12 and i'm still facing high masters . ( was inactive for last 3 months ) . i think you guys need to play more before complainng how you got demoted but you had a positive score last season. I dont think 20 games in an entire season is enough to keep your spot and neighter your skill at master level if you were around mid master.

korona

1098 Posts

April 15 2014 10:14 GMT

#18

On April 15 2014 19:12 xsnac wrote:
well i started this season 2-12 and i'm still facing high masters . ( was inactive for last 3 months ) . i think you guys need to play more before complainng how you got demoted but you had a positive score last season. I dont think 20 games in an entire season is enough to keep your spot and neighter your skill at master level if you were around mid master.

Master league MMR range is huge. If you were in high range you will not be demoted even if you faced maximum MMR decay.

CoraBlue

United States24 Posts

April 15 2014 10:21 GMT

#19

On April 15 2014 19:05 reapsen wrote:

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Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but the max amount of promotions you can get in a season is 2 isn't it? If there's no limit then I'm retarded and nevermind, but being bumped down to silver and realizing you won't improve in ranking for a whole season no matter what you do is... disheartening?

EnPo

Finland411 Posts

April 15 2014 10:22 GMT

#20

Yeah. 2300pts masters and demoted to diamond. Takes out your fun of laddering pretty nicely, when I feel like total chobo...
I'd propably get back to masters if I wanted, but I don't feel like laddering in diamond :S