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-RusH
United States240 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On April 28 2014 13:58 -RusH wrote: I love reading people's stories about how they belong in masters. Keep 'em coming guys! If David Kim weren't ruining eSports, I'd be #1 Masters. I have the mechanics of a Master's player, if it weren't for all those cheesy all-ins, AKA the Protoss race, I'd be #1 Masters. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 28 2014 13:58 -RusH wrote: I love reading people's stories about how they belong in masters. Keep 'em coming guys! So I thought you were just joking or whatever, then I read the thread and saw how many people say they deserve x rank haha. | ||
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Pensai
Canada7 Posts
I just fuck around with different races than my main now and do dumb shit. The game is hardly fun for me anymore because I enjoy the competitive nature of playing in masters and whatnot, and with decay I end up just undoing that inactivity instead of progressing. I don't like bouncing around between playing golds - masters players often because I cannot play ALL the damn time. I get the smurfing discouraging, but there has to be a better way of implementing it. I've been a masters player since 2011 and it wasn't until decay that I got demoted. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
If you were really masters at the current meta, It would not take you that many games, regardless of your decay, only time it takes a long time is if you buy a fresh new account, then you would have to grind out many games like Bomber did, he was playing on a fresh account to mess around on NA, as many Koreans do that. I have accounts I have not played since WOL, even those did not take me very long to grind back into masters this season. Maybe there is a small chance your own skills went down due to your guys "breaks" I think there were far to many average players getting masters at the start of HOTS due to it being a new game and the mass amount of people playing getting into masters easily, when the game finally settled down and people knew the meta played well, that's when a lot of folks started to get demoted, then blizzard adds decay, so yeah if you really are a "current master player" you should have no issue. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 28 2014 16:34 LingBlingBling wrote: I think people are exaggerating like crazy in here. It's not that bad at all. I take breaks, get plat as my league on day 1 of a season reset, it takes me like 10 or so games to get back into dim, then 10 or so more games to get back to masters. If you were really masters at the current meta, It would not take you that many games, regardless of your decay, only time it takes a long time is if you buy a fresh new account, then you would have to grind out many games like Bomber did, he was playing on a fresh account to mess around on NA, as many Koreans do that. I have accounts I have not played since WOL, even those did not take me very long to grind back into masters this season. Maybe there is a small chance your own skills went down due to your guys "breaks" I think there were far to many average players getting masters at the start of HOTS due to it being a new game and the mass amount of people playing getting into masters easily, when the game finally settled down and people knew the meta played well, that's when a lot of folks started to get demoted, then blizzard adds decay, so yeah if you really are a "current master player" you should have no issue. Now you are making stories or talking about accounts that faced MMR reset. All accounts for which you have to play 5 placement matches have faced MMR reset (or are new). For those the MMR changes rapidly and you get to master range indeed with some 10 matches if you win most of those matches. And all HotS accounts start from blank MMR (WoL MMR is not carried over to HotS). If you have an account that has more than 25 games (or little more) played after MMR reset, its MMR change rate has normalized and to progress over leagues will take lots of games. If that MMR is carried over via season placement and you get placed in platinum, it may be fast to get to diamond depending where you were in platinum range. If you were just under the threshold it may require 1 win. If you are at low plat range it may take 15 straight wins. Diamond range is big. Its size almost doubled when Blizzard made offset changes few days after the start of last season. It will in general require 30 to 40 wins more than losses to pass the whole diamond range. Not 10 games (unless you start with blank MMR, when it may take less games than 10). Even if you are a top grandmaster based on skills, it will still require lots of games from you. Edit: You may also be talking about your experiences regarding the offset / threshold change that happened few days after the start of last season. If you were a high range gold player just under the platinum threshold, in general you would have been promoted to diamond with one win after the offset change (I did not spent much time looking at how old MMR ranges mapped into new MMR ranges, but pretty much entire old platinum range was added to the diamond). The master threshold remained relatively the same thought. | ||
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duckk
United States622 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 28 2014 17:20 duckk wrote: I thought MMR decay had a cap? Went from GM to Plat. Slightly unfair to the people I played in the following 18 games. It has a cap, which is ~310 MMR points in MMR tool scale (league MMR range size estimates: b 280 (negative MMR is possible thought), s 260, g 290, p 235, d 450). Chain decay is also possible. To experience chain decay stop playing for more than 2 weeks. Then play 1 game and face decay. Then go inactive again for more than 2 weeks and face decay when you return. | ||
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Terence Chill
Germany112 Posts
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Scurvy
United States117 Posts
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shenlong
219 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On April 30 2014 00:04 shenlong wrote: It has a lot to do with bonus pool. If your bonus pool is huge, you will get demoted, regardless how many pts you have. No. Nothing to do with the bonus pool. MMR decay counter is time based. Learn more about MMR decay from: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/429734-ladder-deflation-and-mmr-decay | ||
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KaiserCommander
Mexico290 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
Last season i played many more games and had over 70% winrate but stayed in gold.This doesn't make any sense to me. I was Plat before all this MMR decay crap started though.Did they make changes to the matchmaking system again recently? | ||
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GTPGlitch
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
They are in a league much lower than they feel they should be in. If that's the case, why can't they just play some games, win quickly and get promoted back? If you are truly in a league much lower than you should be, you should be able to get promoted very quickly. From reading this thread, there are 13 pages of diamond and masters kids that are all in gold league.. Is beating gold players too dififcult to get promoted so people rather cry here or do we have 13 pages of kind souls here that all feel bad about playing legit gold players and can't sleep at night b/c they are stealing gold players ladder points? | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On May 02 2014 23:48 DifuntO wrote: Did anyone else get promoted for no reason this season? I got promoted to Platinum just now after playing 9 games(4 today) this season(5 wins/4 loses) and i have 220 bonus pool. Last season i played many more games and had over 70% winrate but stayed in gold.This doesn't make any sense to me. I was Plat before all this MMR decay crap started though.Did they make changes to the matchmaking system again recently? Blizzard seems to have changed league offsets / thresholds last night. Thus people are promoted when they win their first match after the changes, if their MMR is inside the new higher league's MMR range. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21296149 On May 02 2014 23:54 GTPGlitch wrote: i just know it tells me i'm in dia, but it doesn't show up in my portrait border and i apparently have -7 bonus pool The bonus pool is calculated locally by the SC2 client. If your system clock is in incorrect time, it will show incorrect bonus pool. | ||
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On May 03 2014 00:05 korona wrote: Blizzard seems to have changed league offsets / thresholds last night. Thus people are promoted when they win their first match after the changes, if their MMR is inside the new higher league's MMR range. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21296149 Ah,I see,that makes sense.It also explains why two of the people i played against got promoted after our match. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37038 Posts
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