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Bertholdz
23 Posts
Naniwa wasnt even competing anymore. He was there to do what he does best: show the force of the dark side. All the middleclass-moralists as always try to rule their own minds by projecting everything destructive and unjust on the elegant (though in this case beer-bellyshaped) apperance from the underworld, to continue live in their well-mannered inferno of civilized monkeybusiness. But they know deep down that with only Luke Skywalkers on the screen they would burn their tickets. | ||
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veilchen
13 Posts
On March 16 2014 23:55 Bertholdz wrote: All the middleclass-moralists as always try to rule their own minds by projecting everything destructive and unjust on the elegant (though in this case beer-bellyshaped) apperance from the underworld, to continue live in their well-mannered inferno of civilized monkeybusiness. Calling out bourgeois hypocrisy right where it hurts! Naniwa and Bertholdz - modern Galileis. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 16 2014 23:55 Bertholdz wrote: People here are talking about so much irrelevant things, but the fact is: Naniwa wasnt even competing anymore. He was there to do what he does best: show the force of the dark side. All the middleclass-moralists as always try to rule their own minds by projecting everything destructive and unjust on the elegant (though in this case beer-bellyshaped) apperance from the underworld, to continue live in their well-mannered inferno of civilized monkeybusiness. But they know deep down that with only Luke Skywalkers on the screen they would burn their tickets. Well put  | ||
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drsia
Malaysia12 Posts
On March 16 2014 20:25 pms wrote: He has balls. + Show Spoiler + Nani-balls doesn't sound right, too close to nano-balls  agree | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
On March 16 2014 23:55 Bertholdz wrote: People here are talking about so much irrelevant things, but the fact is: Naniwa wasnt even competing anymore. He was there to do what he does best: show the force of the dark side. All the middleclass-moralists as always try to rule their own minds by projecting everything destructive and unjust on the elegant (though in this case beer-bellyshaped) apperance from the underworld, to continue live in their well-mannered inferno of civilized monkeybusiness. But they know deep down that with only Luke Skywalkers on the screen they would burn their tickets. That is bullshit. You can create rivalries while showing good sportsmanship. Why would you defend Naniwa for being a sore loser? Not really my definition of someone who has cojones... quite the opposite I might say. | ||
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veilchen
13 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
that deserves a facepalm, implicating the thing about "too much theorycrafting" mentioned before | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On March 17 2014 03:38 rd wrote: Sometimes I feel like TL is occupied by old women when it comes to controversial topics (like Naniwa). One of his biggest draws (aside from being -- or having been one of the best foreigners ever in SC2) is that he doesn't abide by the golden community standard of professionalism. Anyone who was surprised he could go out like this were either delusional (he hadn't practiced in a month), or simply want to be surprised so they can rant even more how much they dislike Naniwa. The only reason most of us give a shit at all is because of his lack of self-censoring. People gave a shit because he is/was the best foreigner. He gave a lot of bm everywhere and people are giving bm back. It's all fun and games maybe if you like this kinda thing. | ||
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Mantaza
Germany87 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:40 S1eth wrote: legt? Nope. Booths? Nope. Read TBs part in the OP here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/442794-soundproofing-continues-to-be-an-issue-in-gom-studio so tb played the game ? I mean maybe naniwa could really hear something and got mad because of that. I hate how tb always knows everything. I mean afterall naniwa was sitting there and maybe heard the crowd and got mad thats all its naniwa he gets angry pretty fast. | ||
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stefantheterran
Austria61 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On March 16 2014 23:07 pms wrote: Man, I'm loosing my respect to you. I thought you're a bit more cool-headed. Get real. There is nothing better for Starcraft than a foreigner winning against Koreans. Naniwa still has fans and people would still enjoy him winning against Koreans. I still prefer watching Naniwa than anybody else. You and Stephano you're just making propaganda come true in Starcraft. I still have more respect for Naniwa than to Stephano, who is just openly propagating hatred toward Naniwa. How is such hatred even acceptable for this community? You're losing respect for TB because you thought he was more cool-headed, eh? I thought cool-headed might describe thinking about more than just one person, like all the other people working to make IEM happen that TB wrote about. If there's "nothing better for Starcraft than a foreigner winning against Koreans," what value do you place on a foreigner quitting after going down 0-1 in a BO5? Naniwa greatly lowered his net worth with his exit this weekend. Stephano has some fans that defend and support him no matter what, just like Naniwa. That hardly constitutes the community accepting hateful behavior. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On March 17 2014 08:04 boxerfred wrote: that deserves a facepalm, implicating the thing about "too much theorycrafting" mentioned before | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
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sawman
Norway18 Posts
On March 17 2014 18:37 Shuffleblade wrote: What really takes the cake was the end if this tournament, sOs did some pretty cheesy strats. Would he have done them if he thought there was a problem with the sound proofing? Did hero find his proxies beacuse of bad soundproofing? >_> lol this just shows what a load of bull Nanis excuse was. Naniwa's reaction: my opponent can understand from the crowd that I proxy, and therefore I can't win. sOs's rection: my opponent can understand from the crowd that I proxy, therefore I can trick him What NaNiwa thought was a disadvantage, sOs used as an advantage. | ||
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BananaJunkie
Denmark119 Posts
On March 16 2014 23:55 Bertholdz wrote: People here are talking about so much irrelevant things, but the fact is: Naniwa wasnt even competing anymore. He was there to do what he does best: show the force of the dark side. All the middleclass-moralists as always try to rule their own minds by projecting everything destructive and unjust on the elegant (though in this case beer-bellyshaped) apperance from the underworld, to continue live in their well-mannered inferno of civilized monkeybusiness. But they know deep down that with only Luke Skywalkers on the screen they would burn their tickets. Just my words!.... | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On March 17 2014 20:08 sawman wrote: Naniwa's reaction: my opponent can understand from the crowd that I proxy, and therefore I can't win. It's still not evaluated if the soundproofing really was the issue. Maybe Naniwa was just like "LOL scv, he must've heard me" - oh hell, and even if the crowd was cheering, it was more likely to be for the player's introduction. Also, I re-watched the freakin' game, the crowd wasn't even that loud on that proxy. Stop finding excuses. | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
But nope, witchunt too stronk | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On March 16 2014 15:17 Qwyn wrote: [...] I said before that Naniwa acted on what he felt was right - that it was time to leave, - that he couldn't be bothered to play anymore because it just wasn't fucking worth it. At least he had the balls to leave on an impulse. This isn't a professional sport. It's a goddamned game. And a competition should be a spectacle that gamers take part in together out of passion built upon a solid foundation. Only here, now, - the foundation ISN'T the game...it's become eSports this, eSports that. All for eSports! I never thought I'd understand this point of view. Stop trying to "professionalize" something that is, at its core, not professional. And if people are going to try to make a living playing games...don't act on a foundation of professionalism. Act on the proper foundation. The GAME. [...] There could have been 1000 other ways to say good bye to Sc2 rather than doing it like this. U don't need to be professional to behave according to ur age... This is nothing he can be proud of. It's not about forfeitting itself... it's about how he did it and with what intention... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
His proxy fails and his reaction is instantly to blame it on other factors. IMO naniwa is extremely childish and tbh he doesn't seem to be smart either. So yeah i won't miss him, it is just kinda sad that another rather skilled foreigner leaves the scene. | ||
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