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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
March 17 2014 12:19 GMT
#881
just curious is valve using the "true" soundproof booths that scoots mentioned at TI ?
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
March 17 2014 12:46 GMT
#882
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.
invisible tetris level master
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 17 2014 12:48 GMT
#883
At least its the last time we will see his tantrums ever again. Good player, but horrible attitude.
Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
March 17 2014 12:59 GMT
#884
Good riddance! we wont miss such a disgrace! just wish I could be at the arena so I could boo and throw rotten tomatos and eggs at him on his way out. I hope he never returns
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 17 2014 13:02 GMT
#885
The good thing is that with this move he burned so many bridges that it will be hard for him to find a decent sponsorship/ team if he should feel the desire to go back to sc2.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 13:14:06
March 17 2014 13:12 GMT
#886
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 17 2014 13:28 GMT
#887
What a delicious scandal for someone who quit sc2 a while back- this thread has made for pretty interesting reading.

As ever, I will never understand the inevitable free-rights activists who go on condoning everything done by stupid/douchey progamers. Is there a sort of fetish for this kind of thing in particular?

I will remember Nani for his double ro8 appearance in the GSL. Scrolling down the respective liquepedia pages and seeing a swedish flag amongst the korean ones was refreshing. Too bad, if he doesn't care about how the community views him, then we will view him as a shitty BM-ing kid, which is really not far from the truth.

Naniwa protectors: You want freedom of speech, everyone-is-entitled-to-their-opinion, fine. Now please accept my opinion that Naniwa is simply a whiny kid, toxic for the scene, good riddance.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12722 Posts
March 17 2014 13:37 GMT
#888
I don't understand how anyone can defend his behavior at all.

It was selfish and incredibly disrespectful to everyone involved.

Be it the opponent, the team, the sponsors, the viewers, the tournament organizer etc

He has no one else to blame at for people hating on him.
Especially when the finals were played with non stop maingames and everyone was watching sc2 only.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:27:57
March 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#889
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:35:39
March 17 2014 14:35 GMT
#890
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Ouija
Profile Joined December 2011
United States129 Posts
March 17 2014 14:37 GMT
#891
Never liked Naniwa at all. Especially after he did something similar at GSL when he removed his hands from keyboard + mouse. Glad to hear he is finally leaving the scene. I never thought he was as good as people claim he is either, guess it was more of a foreign hope thing. In all honesty just in case he wants to comeback later down the road, I would ban his punk ass from attending IEM again.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:40:44
March 17 2014 14:40 GMT
#892
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash



watch @ 2:00
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:44 GMT
#893
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
March 17 2014 14:49 GMT
#894
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol
invisible tetris level master
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
March 17 2014 14:51 GMT
#895
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


plus he still lost.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:52 GMT
#896
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.

2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
March 17 2014 14:55 GMT
#897
Abusing the sound and not mentioning a word, but having a disadvantage in another game where ur opponent uses it and then complaining about it... this is just stupid and proves the lack of sportsmanship. I have to agree with Nachtwind here. What u say makes no sense to me, TRaFFIC.
Random is hard work dude...
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:57 GMT
#898
On March 17 2014 23:55 Phaenoman wrote:
Abusing the sound and not mentioning a word, but having a disadvantage in another game where ur opponent uses it and then complaining about it... this is just stupid and proves the lack of sportsmanship. I have to agree with Nachtwind here. What u say makes no sense to me, TRaFFIC.

So, according to you, every single time there are "bad" playing conditions the player needs to complain and/or forfeit. Otherwise, they will never be able to complain again?

Nani was playing LOL the night before. He wanted to cheese his way through the tournament. Hard to do without soundproofing.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 15:01:56
March 17 2014 14:59 GMT
#899
On March 17 2014 23:52 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.



Because he thought the proxy gate was scouted only due the audience? O_o

edit: At least that´s what i think triggered his sentence "xD so fun to play without soundproofing". And i doubt you´re able to convince me that this sentence wasn´t due to this.
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 15:03:54
March 17 2014 15:01 GMT
#900
On March 17 2014 23:59 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:52 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.



Because he thought the proxy gate was scouted only due the audience? O_o


You make one assumption after another. While maybe...maybe that's true, he never said that. He heard the audience's reaction and that prompted his statement.
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