• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:01
CET 19:01
KST 03:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)11Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1956 users

NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 45

Forum Index > SC2 General
938 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 Next All
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
March 17 2014 12:19 GMT
#881
just curious is valve using the "true" soundproof booths that scoots mentioned at TI ?
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
March 17 2014 12:46 GMT
#882
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.
invisible tetris level master
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 17 2014 12:48 GMT
#883
At least its the last time we will see his tantrums ever again. Good player, but horrible attitude.
Yoshirou_Iba
Profile Joined January 2013
Paraguay37 Posts
March 17 2014 12:59 GMT
#884
Good riddance! we wont miss such a disgrace! just wish I could be at the arena so I could boo and throw rotten tomatos and eggs at him on his way out. I hope he never returns
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
March 17 2014 13:02 GMT
#885
The good thing is that with this move he burned so many bridges that it will be hard for him to find a decent sponsorship/ team if he should feel the desire to go back to sc2.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 13:14:06
March 17 2014 13:12 GMT
#886
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 17 2014 13:28 GMT
#887
What a delicious scandal for someone who quit sc2 a while back- this thread has made for pretty interesting reading.

As ever, I will never understand the inevitable free-rights activists who go on condoning everything done by stupid/douchey progamers. Is there a sort of fetish for this kind of thing in particular?

I will remember Nani for his double ro8 appearance in the GSL. Scrolling down the respective liquepedia pages and seeing a swedish flag amongst the korean ones was refreshing. Too bad, if he doesn't care about how the community views him, then we will view him as a shitty BM-ing kid, which is really not far from the truth.

Naniwa protectors: You want freedom of speech, everyone-is-entitled-to-their-opinion, fine. Now please accept my opinion that Naniwa is simply a whiny kid, toxic for the scene, good riddance.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12631 Posts
March 17 2014 13:37 GMT
#888
I don't understand how anyone can defend his behavior at all.

It was selfish and incredibly disrespectful to everyone involved.

Be it the opponent, the team, the sponsors, the viewers, the tournament organizer etc

He has no one else to blame at for people hating on him.
Especially when the finals were played with non stop maingames and everyone was watching sc2 only.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:27:57
March 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#889
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:35:39
March 17 2014 14:35 GMT
#890
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Ouija
Profile Joined December 2011
United States129 Posts
March 17 2014 14:37 GMT
#891
Never liked Naniwa at all. Especially after he did something similar at GSL when he removed his hands from keyboard + mouse. Glad to hear he is finally leaving the scene. I never thought he was as good as people claim he is either, guess it was more of a foreign hope thing. In all honesty just in case he wants to comeback later down the road, I would ban his punk ass from attending IEM again.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:40:44
March 17 2014 14:40 GMT
#892
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash



watch @ 2:00
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:44 GMT
#893
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
March 17 2014 14:49 GMT
#894
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol
invisible tetris level master
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
March 17 2014 14:51 GMT
#895
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


plus he still lost.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:52 GMT
#896
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.

2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Phaenoman
Profile Joined February 2013
568 Posts
March 17 2014 14:55 GMT
#897
Abusing the sound and not mentioning a word, but having a disadvantage in another game where ur opponent uses it and then complaining about it... this is just stupid and proves the lack of sportsmanship. I have to agree with Nachtwind here. What u say makes no sense to me, TRaFFIC.
Random is hard work dude...
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 14:57 GMT
#898
On March 17 2014 23:55 Phaenoman wrote:
Abusing the sound and not mentioning a word, but having a disadvantage in another game where ur opponent uses it and then complaining about it... this is just stupid and proves the lack of sportsmanship. I have to agree with Nachtwind here. What u say makes no sense to me, TRaFFIC.

So, according to you, every single time there are "bad" playing conditions the player needs to complain and/or forfeit. Otherwise, they will never be able to complain again?

Nani was playing LOL the night before. He wanted to cheese his way through the tournament. Hard to do without soundproofing.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 15:01:56
March 17 2014 14:59 GMT
#899
On March 17 2014 23:52 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.



Because he thought the proxy gate was scouted only due the audience? O_o

edit: At least that´s what i think triggered his sentence "xD so fun to play without soundproofing". And i doubt you´re able to convince me that this sentence wasn´t due to this.
invisible tetris level master
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 15:03:54
March 17 2014 15:01 GMT
#900
On March 17 2014 23:59 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:52 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:49 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:40 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:24 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:12 TRaFFiC wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:46 Nachtwind wrote:
On March 17 2014 20:38 Sakray wrote:
What people seem to forget is that as a competitor he has the right to forfeit at any given moment for any reason. You can't blame him for that.

But nope, witchunt too stronk


People don´t blame for the forfeit itself. They blame him for fortifying while he could have given that place to someone more worthy with more passion to play in that tournament. They blame him for forfeiting like a child that throws temper tantrums. And the thing that he gets mad about is something he abused in the past. Ironically it wasn´t a problem back then. They blame him for avoiding a battle and deliver a good fight against all odds to leave something remarkable something that´s worthy to remember.

Huh, what you mean abused in the past? Once you hear the crowd, you know you've made a mistake. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. It's not intentional. How can you NOT use that information? At that point the crowd becomes part of the game.

If Nani didn't know about the soundproofing, how could he give his spot away in advance?

I think his forfeit is bullshit, but your argument is holed.


The argument is, he´s fine with himself using "the sound" but when others use it he calls bullshit. Where´s there a hole? o_O

edit: while polt doesn´t even used "the sound"


Nani never said he was ok with using sound from the audience. You're assuming that. He only said there was an issue with sound proofing, as pointed out by other players.

So, once again, he never "used it." It happened and he benefited from it. There's a difference.


Oh i don´t even need to "assume" that. He didn´t even had a problem to do that versus flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSIqAXIqnw&feature=player_detailpage#t=121

watch @ 2:00


Yeah man, I already know about this video.

Just because he used sound from the audience doesn't mean he INTENDED too or that he is OK with doing so. No fair player wants to use sound, but anyone will use it. Your opponent has the same luxuries. It's a fair playing field.


Again, even if this becomes dull and i feel punked... nani uses it = no problem, he assumed(!) polt use it = throw tantrum.. Don´t know what´s there not to understand. If you want to fight some werd semantic battle that doesn´t have any value i´m out lol

The second part of your argument is a false assumption. "polt use it = throw tantrum.. "

Show me where Nani says he forfeited because Polt used it. He complained about sound proofing, not about Polt.



Because he thought the proxy gate was scouted only due the audience? O_o


You make one assumption after another. While maybe...maybe that's true, he never said that. He heard the audience's reaction and that prompted his statement.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
14:00
Group A
ByuN vs RogueLIVE!
Classic vs Rogue
WardiTV1903
TKL 463
IndyStarCraft 323
Rex110
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 477
IndyStarCraft 323
Rex 110
Railgan 49
SC2Nice 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24552
Shuttle 799
firebathero 119
Hyun 105
Zeus 68
Shine 25
Yoon 21
HiyA 14
Dota 2
Gorgc8070
qojqva3290
ODPixel214
Counter-Strike
fl0m1604
byalli534
allub218
oskar187
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King62
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor331
Liquid`Hasu150
Other Games
FrodaN4408
Grubby3475
Liquid`RaSZi2445
B2W.Neo396
Beastyqt213
Harstem194
ToD179
ArmadaUGS143
KnowMe141
Hui .110
trigger58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2282
EGCTV1039
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc232
• poizon28 26
• Adnapsc2 11
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• Michael_bg 0
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2542
League of Legends
• Shiphtur629
Other Games
• imaqtpie905
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 59m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
14h 59m
Wardi Open
17h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 59m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 17h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-01-11
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.