EPTOn February 27 2014 18:59 calippo wrote:
The LR thread was pure gold
Play to win!
The LR thread was pure gold
Play to win!"Has sees you're hating on him for beating JD this way, and he doesn't give a fuck because he's in Ro16 and JD not"
Arthur, Bomber advance from Group D of WCS AM Ro32 - Page 3
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
"Has sees you're hating on him for beating JD this way, and he doesn't give a fuck because he's in Ro16 and JD not" | ||
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PanzerElite
540 Posts
This happens way to often. --> really difficult to hold allin gets repelled --> no worries wasn't allin at all, protoss doesn't have allins in hots --> continue's to roll the opponent in the lategame. No other race can pull this stuff off.......... I don't even get why some people only play straight up with toss while they could easily boost their winrates by resorting to doing this stuff. It's so ridiculously strong on top of having such a powerful lategame. Has is actually bad (check his army control) but he still manages to eliminate Jaedong through coin flips lolwhut? Luckily Bomber served justice. I think if blizzard wants to keep toss like this, they should also change how the lategame works. - added wrong quote, nvm User was warned for this post | ||
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Holloworb
Norway345 Posts
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
The all-in opportunities difference between races is ok. God dammit stop trying to make every races look the same in a by-design asymmetrical game. The only point of concern people could have with protoss is that many dangerous opener looks the same yet require very different reactions from the other player (hell, even in the PvP match-up), like say a PvT blink opener vs a fast zealot archon timing (well, for the sake of an example, I don't really know if fast zealot archon timing is even a thing, I just lose to it on the ladder  )Assymetrical doesnt mean unfair. Assymetrical doesnt mean spoil all fun to other races. Currently protoss has so many openers and so many ways to hide them it's just not fair. Oh, and btw, is anyone able to quantify the number of viewers lost because a random protoss cheesed his way to RO16? On IEM stream lot of people came just to see the "BW bonjwa". | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1978 Posts
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PanzerElite
540 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:28 TaShadan wrote: JD got allined? AWESOME! Not just once! But 3 times in a row! True story, you can't deny that! | ||
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SunHee
Estonia17 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:24 Furikawari wrote: Assymetrical doesnt mean unfair. Assymetrical doesnt mean spoil all fun to other races. Currently protoss has so many openers and so many ways to hide them it's just not fair. Oh, and btw, is anyone able to quantify the number of viewers lost because a random protoss cheesed his way to RO16? On IEM stream lot of people came just to see the "BW bonjwa". I see what you did there, lol! be that as it may, yeah the game may be asymmetrical, but the element of fun is probably what gets people the most. So it's not just balance whining i guess, it's more design complaints. Maybe that should be the new Meta of whining? So Balance or Game Design (ie protoss) whining allowed anymore. Also, maybe next after that, there could be a labeling system that uses stars to designate certain people | ||
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Scoobers
48 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:31 PanzerElite wrote: Not just once! But 3 times in a row! True story, you can't deny that! To be expected from Protoss scrubs. Cant win straight up because you opponent is superior in skill and pretty much everything else? Play protoss and pick one of bajilion all ins and suddenly you can compete with world best! You failed the all in, just turtle behind pf nexus and drag it to late game where your opponent has to be much better than you to stay even with your a move and storms. Finally got it out of my system. Fuck Protoss. User was warned for this post | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:36 tshi wrote: I see what you did there, lol! be that as it may, yeah the game may be asymmetrical, but the element of fun is probably what gets people the most. So it's not just balance whining i guess, it's more design complaints. Maybe that should be the new Meta of whining? So Balance or Game Design (ie protoss) whining allowed anymore. Also, maybe next after that, there could be a labeling system that uses stars to designate certain people We're like 5 years past the phase design whining started. Just look at warpgate, Forcefield, Mothershitcore, Fungal, Swarm Hosts, Hellbats, Roaches, Collosi, Immortals, Hellbats, Corruptors, Overseers, Void Rays, broken economy, etcetera, etcetera. All of these things have one of multiple problems with them which are all flaws by design and were predictable. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:42 SC2Toastie wrote: We're like 5 years past the phase design whining started. Just look at warpgate, Forcefield, Mothershitcore, Fungal, Swarm Hosts, Hellbats, Roaches, Collosi, Immortals, Hellbats, Corruptors, Overseers, Void Rays, broken economy, etcetera, etcetera. All of these things have one of multiple problems with them which are all flaws by design and were predictable. In some way you can link all of this to the bad economy design. | ||
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kuriz
Denmark141 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:47 XaCez wrote: I'd have loved to see the reaction if HerO was doing this to FireCake. In that case the better player won and wanted to avoid 3 hours of boringness. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:48 Furikawari wrote: In some way you can link all of this to the bad economy design. No, not really. Some units are just bland, stupid, unmicroable. Some abilities have no place in an RTS. Some things break the most basic rules of defenders advantage or taking risks in an RTS. And the economy being too good tops it off. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
At least Bomber pulled trough somehow. | ||
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Mikku
Czech Republic58 Posts
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TheFlexN
Israel472 Posts
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Bjarne
Germany192 Posts
On February 27 2014 19:47 XaCez wrote: I'd have loved to see the reaction if HerO was doing this to FireCake. The reaction would be pretty low. The better player wins and the audience did not have to face 2h of swarmhost antiplay. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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