JD hasn't been showing the outcomes that people expect from him. As a professional SC2 player, he has to be aware of opponents, their strategies, improved ways of dealing with your own weaknesses, etc. He certainly is aware of the "discussion" around Protoss issues, so we always hope he will find new ways to win.
That he also lost to Bomber (strange to see that Red Bull in front) increases the questions to include "Did he just have an off night due to ____? Has he not been practicing as much or for particular opponents? Is he frustrated with "the" game and/or "his" game? Are the contenders just able to come up with the right strategy at the right time to beat him?"
So many people want to see JD rise to the very top and win those tournaments that it is easy to lose hope with each defeat.
And congratulations to Arthur & Bomber on advancing. Good luck on the rounds ahead. Has, keep working on your skills - it was nice to see a lesser known player getting some attention. Hope it hasn't been all bad.
I am actually kind of glad JD got knocked out. This may sound strange but it makes me less sad now that scarlett lost, she now has good company among the eliminated players.
While I haven't had a chance to watch last night's WCS AM, I did watch all of Cologne. There JD was up to his usual self of pushing his reactions to the last possible second and flawlessly executing with what he had. In almost all of JD's games, his mechanics were amazing but the timing of his decisions was off. Eeking out victories when they should be landslides has been JD's mantra as of late. It sounds like last night was no different and he got caught. Unfortunate, but not surprising. I can see he is a brilliant player, but SC2 is quite unforgiving.
I don't mind cheese, personally, because it gives us variation in the landscape of games. I have been underwhelmed by TvZ because of the day in, day out Terran train. Back in WoL before the queen buff, TvZ was all over the place and it was entertaining as hell. Cheesing throws everything on its head.
What I do find disappointing about cheese is that it allows arguably lesser players to advance in the Bo1 or Bo3 format (see Kyrix in GSL Open Season 2 or BitByBit's legacy). Having said that, MVP (see MVP's career) and Maru (see Maru v Innovation) have both demonstrated the power of cheese as a strategy to exposed weaknesses of specific players. In that context, JD's loss is no different.
It has been said that the Protoss of SC1 also had a wide variety of builds that defined it as a race. In that, SC2 is no different. There does appear to be something lost in translation, however, when success for the defending player relies so much on proper scouting and perfect reaction and not so much on the execution of the cheesing player. It would be awesome if there were more opportunities to outplay or react to the opponent, even from a deficit, but alas, it is what it is.
I find it hard to believe that most people would take even one millisecond to bash JD if he had a number of abusive strategies and used only them to advance. People like to claim that these arguments are about game design and whatnot, but it's (usually) really only an outlet for whining because the 'wrong' player won.
On February 28 2014 05:25 Plansix wrote: The power of Axiom YouTube video where Crank and Alicia apologize for playing Protoss is pretty awesome too. The ending is really funny.
I have Arthur on my fantasy team that I play with my friends for WCS AM so I'm happy he made it through. I'm stoked for Bomber because he's pretty much the best! But at the same time I'm sad for JD and was kind of cheering for him too despite having Arthur on my team, and preferring Bomber over everyone. Lol.
On February 28 2014 04:20 Zealously wrote: I find it hard to believe that most people would take even one millisecond to bash JD if he had a number of abusive strategies and used only them to advance. People like to claim that these arguments are about game design and whatnot, but it's (usually) really only an outlet for whining because the 'wrong' player won.
If JD was a super cheesy protoss he would probably get quite a bit of hate. His BW accomplishments would likely give him some leeway compared to newer players, but that is only appropriate.
Believe it or not, some people just don't like what the game is like right now.
On February 28 2014 04:20 Zealously wrote: I find it hard to believe that most people would take even one millisecond to bash JD if he had a number of abusive strategies and used only them to advance. People like to claim that these arguments are about game design and whatnot, but it's (usually) really only an outlet for whining because the 'wrong' player won.
1. I disagree. People were pretty unhappy with HerO's super cheesy series at cologne. 2. You might concede that if Has had won in a longer game, there would be much, much less bashing....
On February 28 2014 04:20 Zealously wrote: I find it hard to believe that most people would take even one millisecond to bash JD if he had a number of abusive strategies and used only them to advance. People like to claim that these arguments are about game design and whatnot, but it's (usually) really only an outlet for whining because the 'wrong' player won.
If JD was a super cheesy protoss he would probably get quite a bit of hate. His BW accomplishments would likely give him some leeway compared to newer players, but that is only appropriate.
Believe it or not, some people just don't like what the game is like right now.
agreed.
edit: saying "if Has had" in a sentence is just awesome.