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On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of? Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs. "few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.
On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of? Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs. "few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place. Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.
Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs.
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On February 07 2014 05:51 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of? Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs. "few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place. On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.
Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs.
oh...
I thought 40 points to their 11 from Round 1.
But these are different points O.O
What kind of system is that? ^^
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Greenei
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:01 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:51 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of? Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs. "few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place. On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.
Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs. oh... I thought 40 points to their 11 from Round 1. But these are different points O.O What kind of system is that? ^^
No, those are not the points I'm talking about. Each team is awarded a number of points based on their rank after a round. KT received 81 points for winning the round while Prime received 30 for placing last. These are entirely separate and unrelated to the win/loss differential
Do you even Korean scene, bro?
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On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro?
Whut?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:Whut?
Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.
What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.
Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague? 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre. Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?
It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre. Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague? It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.
Yeah I was just poking fun 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre. Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague? It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though. Yeah I was just poking fun
It's already dead stop hurting me 
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On February 07 2014 06:25 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre. Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague? It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though. Yeah I was just poking fun It's already dead stop hurting me
They will bounce back dw
I have to say Rogue has became quite good tho.
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I just hope Ryul2 doesn't choke. Should be fun! :D
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On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:Do you even Korean scene, bro? Whut? Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline. What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.
No player in the entire world is all kill material against SKT.
Hell, if you would made a team of 10 best players in the world besides those on SKT (chosen by whatever criteria you wish), I still probably wouldn't favour them over SKT. That team is too stacked and that has to show in all-kill format. Although, obviously that format is volatile and they CAN lose, they are always coming into any match as favourites.
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1-2 0-2 to SKT  Dark?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 07 2014 07:26 DiMano wrote:1-2 0-2 to SKT Dark?
*High-five*
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your Country52798 Posts
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0
Sure they do!
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On February 06 2014 22:53 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 22:30 T.O.P. wrote:
Maru has to be sent out last for Jin Air imo. You don't want to give SKT a chance to beat Maru by sending out a Protoss to snipe him.
That's also why I think Soulkey will be sent out if Soo loses. You want to save Parting and Rain for Maru. But Maru is 5-1 vs Protoss and lost twice to Soulkey in their last matchup. I think you want to save Soulkey for Maru. Also all of you fools who think Rogue is going to lose to soO are wrong.
Darkhoarse is making the most sense. I get people are up in arms about TvP balance, but the fact is, Maru is wrecking protoss lately and is suffering versus Zerg. I too think soulkey is waiting for Maru, but I also think that is too obvious, and Maru might have something prepared. God I am excited for this!!
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On February 07 2014 07:26 DiMano wrote:1-2 0-2 to SKT Dark?
Dark is a God. You don't even know.
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Rogue just won the Asia IEM Katowice qualifier how are people hating on him O.O.. ignant.
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EPT
