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[SPL] soO and Rogue announced as playoff starters

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root0315
Profile Joined December 2013
Korea (South)18 Posts
February 06 2014 06:14 GMT
#1
1Round playoffs will be broadcasted this Sunday.

SK and Jinair will fight for the 1round semi final.

Both teams have revealed their players for the 1set. Interestingly, both players are zerg user (soO & Rouge).

The round playoffs will be in BO7 all-kill format. Thus, result of 1set would be important.

The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.

So much expect this playoffs and just guess who's going to be round winner.


#3. SK Telecom T1 vs #4. Jinair Greenwings

1set (Z)soO < Frost LE > (Z)Rogue
2set <Yeonsu LE >
3set < Outboxer >
4set < The King Sejong Station >
5set < Star Station TE >
6set < Bel'Shir Vestige LE >
7set < Frost LE >



This 1Round Playoffs will be broadcasted this Sunday on Twitch TV at 01:30AM PST / 10:30AM CET / 18:30 KST.

- Twitch TV : http://ko.twitch.tv/sc2proleague


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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 08:26:53
February 06 2014 08:26 GMT
#2
Yay! Proleaguuuuu!
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
February 06 2014 08:28 GMT
#3
awesome
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 12:07:00
February 06 2014 12:06 GMT
#4
Go Jin Air ! Take out the overrated T1 felons ! :D

(Disclaimer: this post aims at stirring shit but no hard feelings <3)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 12:14 GMT
#5
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0
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GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
February 06 2014 12:18 GMT
#6
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

Rouge got the Major blessing. It's pretty powerful. Look what it did to Innovation :o
I love hellbats
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
February 06 2014 12:21 GMT
#7
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Maybe they realized that they have no shot at winning the entire round anyway Might as well loose to SKT1 to be done with playoffs and focus on the next round.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18634 Posts
February 06 2014 12:34 GMT
#8
40 extra points is crazy isnt it? o.o
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 06 2014 12:34 GMT
#9
Rouge!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 06 2014 12:44 GMT
#10
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Rogue is crushing thru the KR IEM qualifiers...
Fleuria
Profile Joined April 2011
England466 Posts
February 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#11
given the depth and power of the T1 lineup its an embarrassment they aren't undefeated.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#12
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Maru & sOs are snipe-able, would not send them out first.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 12:47:10
February 06 2014 12:46 GMT
#13
soO to kill rogue, then maru to all kill. Heard it here first.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
February 06 2014 13:10 GMT
#14
Go soO! Gosu!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 06 2014 13:14 GMT
#15
Rouge is the future!
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 06 2014 13:30 GMT
#16
Maru has to be sent out last for Jin Air imo. You don't want to give SKT a chance to beat Maru by sending out a Protoss to snipe him.

That's also why I think Soulkey will be sent out if Soo loses. You want to save Parting and Rain for Maru.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
February 06 2014 13:31 GMT
#17
Major said on the t8 tour that savage(rogue) was the best player in practice of the team. i guess he just managed to show it. plus zvz can be anyone's
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 06 2014 13:35 GMT
#18
i guess skt1 has the only maru slayer in proleague so its fair not to let him start i guess
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 06 2014 13:37 GMT
#19
Kicking things off with a ZvZ then. Hopefully it'll be one of the fast paced actionfests that it can potentially be
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 13:53:43
February 06 2014 13:53 GMT
#20
On February 06 2014 22:30 T.O.P. wrote:
Maru has to be sent out last for Jin Air imo. You don't want to give SKT a chance to beat Maru by sending out a Protoss to snipe him.

That's also why I think Soulkey will be sent out if Soo loses. You want to save Parting and Rain for Maru.

But Maru is 5-1 vs Protoss and lost twice to Soulkey in their last matchup. I think you want to save Soulkey for Maru.

Also all of you fools who think Rogue is going to lose to soO are wrong.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 06 2014 13:56 GMT
#21
soO all kill
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 13:58:36
February 06 2014 13:57 GMT
#22
40 points ? That's insane...
I'm happy to see the $15000. It makes much more sens to tryhard for any playoffs.

I'll bet on a Maru Sniper ready for him. Rogue is good but i think Soo have the edge. Isn't Soo a ZvZ monster ?

EDIT : OH GOD it's Bo7 allkill ! didn't saw that. This is GOING to be AWESOME !
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
February 06 2014 14:15 GMT
#23
Sunday. I'll try to make it.

PROOOOOOOOOLEEEEEAAAGUUUUUUUUUUU
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 06 2014 14:16 GMT
#24
On February 06 2014 22:30 T.O.P. wrote:
Maru has to be sent out last for Jin Air imo. You don't want to give SKT a chance to beat Maru by sending out a Protoss to snipe him.

That's also why I think Soulkey will be sent out if Soo loses. You want to save Parting and Rain for Maru.

is reverse day today?
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 06 2014 14:40 GMT
#25
On February 06 2014 22:56 Shellshock wrote:
soO all kill


He has such cute smile when he wins:D
So, ye, this.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 06 2014 15:05 GMT
#26
Sending Rogue out first makes the most sense; he's been Jin Air's second-best player behind Maru, and you don't want to send out Maru first so SKT can immediately prepare a sniper for the second map. I'll root for Jin Air but hopefully we'll just see a good match! SKT has more "star power" but Jin Air has a flexible team with lots of solid players of all races (TRUE, Cure, Terminator, Pigbaby) who can come out to snipe and if there's one thing that GSTL has taught us is those are the teams that tend to do better in all-kill formats over teams loaded with individual league superstars (who tend to rely heavily on preparation for specific players).
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
February 06 2014 15:13 GMT
#27
At this very moment Rogue beats the shit out of the IEM Qualifier...I think he's in shape...
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 06 2014 15:15 GMT
#28
I predict 4-3. Jin air will win 3maps and then Pantaji reverse allkill.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 06 2014 15:24 GMT
#29
well sktt1 is screwed, rogue allkill incoming!
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Baadbeat
Profile Joined June 2011
France203 Posts
February 06 2014 15:24 GMT
#30
Well Rogue's ZvZ seems quite solid! His IEM run is quite impressive!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 06 2014 15:25 GMT
#31
Well soO 3-0d Soulkey in the GSL and Rogue 3-1d Soulkey in the IEM qualifier just now so I guess soO is better? I think I got that logic right.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 06 2014 15:29 GMT
#32
Are the play off rounds bo3 like the last time?
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 06 2014 15:29 GMT
#33
Hype let's go Rogue get Jin Air started off right!
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 06 2014 15:30 GMT
#34
RIP SKT
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 06 2014 15:36 GMT
#35
On February 07 2014 00:29 Daswollvieh wrote:
Are the play off rounds bo3 like the last time?


The playoffs at the end of 2014 (the finals of the entire season) are Bo3 (until finals) but the "round" finals like this one are Bo1.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 06 2014 15:44 GMT
#36
Rogue just showed some strenght 0.0

JINAIR fighting!
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 06 2014 15:47 GMT
#37
Congratz on qualifying for IEM!!! :D:D:D
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
February 06 2014 15:47 GMT
#38
What are the points for?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 06 2014 15:53 GMT
#39
On February 07 2014 00:47 Sprouter wrote:
What are the points for?

You can disenchant them and turn the dust into hearthstone cards.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
February 06 2014 15:56 GMT
#40
So much expect this playoffs and just guess who's going to be round winner.

This is what I'm doing.
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
February 06 2014 16:09 GMT
#41
soO all kill

we all know
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Darkomicron
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands216 Posts
February 06 2014 16:23 GMT
#42
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.
"Night will fall, and so will you"
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 16:25 GMT
#43
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 16:32:26
February 06 2014 16:32 GMT
#44
On February 07 2014 01:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him


Does Soo have better ZvZ than SG_Shine ? Not in WR but ... when i think about it i feel Shine is more dangerous.
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 16:42:37
February 06 2014 16:39 GMT
#45
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

After today's IEM results I will not be surprised about 4-0

On February 07 2014 01:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him

Also true it is how Korean StarCraft works :D

On February 07 2014 01:32 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:25 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him


Does Soo have better ZvZ than SG_Shine ? Not in WR but ... when i think about it i feel Shine is more dangerous.


Same thoughts were here about Soulkey vs soO
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL/Premier#Playoffs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 06 2014 16:41 GMT
#46
On February 07 2014 01:39 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

After today's IEM results I will not be surprised about 4-0

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:25 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him

Also true it is how Korean StarCraft works :D

It will go to a 3-3 and in the end Fantasy comes out and finishes Maru off, damn
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
February 06 2014 16:43 GMT
#47
On February 07 2014 01:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 01:39 DiMano wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

After today's IEM results I will not be surprised about 4-0

On February 07 2014 01:25 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 01:23 Darkomicron wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Come again? Rogue CRUSHED IEM.


Exactly

therefore soO will probably stomp him

Also true it is how Korean StarCraft works :D

It will go to a 3-3 and in the end Fantasy comes out and finishes Maru off, damn

I just want to see FanTaSy vs TRUE coz they know how to produce awesome games
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
February 06 2014 16:49 GMT
#48
rogue did just go 7-3 in three zvz's for the IEM qualifier... including beating a one soulkey
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 16:55:56
February 06 2014 16:55 GMT
#49
On February 07 2014 01:49 asongdotnet wrote:
rogue did just go 7-3 in three zvz's for the IEM qualifier... including beating a one soulkey

in Korea it means nothing
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
February 06 2014 17:20 GMT
#50
SK uuuuuuuuuuu!
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
February 06 2014 18:05 GMT
#51
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

Rogue will wreck soO, especially with the MajOr blessing
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 18:13:14
February 06 2014 18:12 GMT
#52
And after 3-3, when dust will settle, wild Bisu and angry Jaedong will appear in booths and play 4 hours PvZ just for dethrone Firecake and Mana.

Best ending ever.
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LinaiL
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany96 Posts
February 06 2014 18:27 GMT
#53
What kind of points are we talking of?
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
February 06 2014 19:03 GMT
#54
Mm... I guess this means no chances of Fantasy playing?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 19:05 GMT
#55
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
February 06 2014 19:25 GMT
#56
Rogue is such a strong first player for Jin Air, I'm hoping he can do great things.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18634 Posts
February 06 2014 19:34 GMT
#57
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#58
On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff


If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 06 2014 19:50 GMT
#59
KT had 11 points right now, 40 points is bloody huge boost
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 19:53 GMT
#60
On February 07 2014 04:50 opterown wrote:
KT had 11 points right now, 40 points is bloody huge boost


Are we talking about the same kind of points?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18634 Posts
February 06 2014 20:42 GMT
#61
On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff


If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.


On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 20:53:55
February 06 2014 20:51 GMT
#62
On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff


If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.


Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18634 Posts
February 06 2014 21:01 GMT
#63
On February 07 2014 05:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff


If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.


On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.


Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs.


oh...
I thought 40 points to their 11 from Round 1.

But these are different points O.O
What kind of system is that? ^^
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
February 06 2014 21:03 GMT
#64
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 21:05 GMT
#65
On February 07 2014 06:01 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 05:51 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 05:42 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:37 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:34 sharkie wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:05 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 03:27 LinaiL wrote:
What kind of points are we talking of?


Proleague points; used to determine seeding for the season playoffs (post-Round 4). Top 4 teams in terms of points will make the playoffs, while the four lower teams are eliminated. Placing top 4 in any one round gives a team the chance to gain a few extra points to boost their chances at making the season playoffs.


"few", more like the winner of round playoff is guaranteed for season playoff


If you win both the regular round and the round playoffs, maybe. Just winning one round playoffs doesn't guarantee squat, though, since a win equals a regular round 6th place.


On February 06 2014 15:14 root0315 wrote:
The round winner gets 40 extra points and USD ~$15,000 while the second best team gets awarder with 10 extra points and USD ~$5,000.


Unless I've made a huge mistake somewhere along the way, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If I'm reading this correctly, winning the regular round gives 81 points, while placing 8th gives 30 points. There are four rounds, so a team can obtain a maximum of 324 points from regular rounds and an additional 160 by placing first in everything. With that in mind, I don't really see how winning the round playoffs (+40 points for a maximum of 121 points after R1) would guarantee a team a spot in the season playoffs.


oh...
I thought 40 points to their 11 from Round 1.

But these are different points O.O
What kind of system is that? ^^


No, those are not the points I'm talking about. Each team is awarded a number of points based on their rank after a round. KT received 81 points for winning the round while Prime received 30 for placing last. These are entirely separate and unrelated to the win/loss differential

On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
February 06 2014 21:08 GMT
#66
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 21:13 GMT
#67
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 06 2014 21:15 GMT
#68
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 21:18:07
February 06 2014 21:17 GMT
#69
On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?


It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 06 2014 21:24 GMT
#70
On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?


It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.

Yeah I was just poking fun
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 21:25 GMT
#71
On February 07 2014 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?


It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.

Yeah I was just poking fun


It's already dead stop hurting me
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 21:50:00
February 06 2014 21:48 GMT
#72
On February 07 2014 06:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:17 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

Isn't that your whole basis for projecting CJ to win Proleague?


It's part of it, though most of the players I predicted to be important parts in CJ's Proleague campaign all had some offline results to speak of and multiple sick qualifier runs. All-kill is a different beast, though.

Yeah I was just poking fun

It's already dead stop hurting me


They will bounce back dw
I have to say Rogue has became quite good tho.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2014 21:49 GMT
#73
I just hope Ryul2 doesn't choke. Should be fun! :D
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 22:00:59
February 06 2014 22:00 GMT
#74
On February 07 2014 06:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:08 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/


Do you even Korean scene, bro?


Whut?


Believing that one hot streak in one qualifier will necessarily translate into a series of wins in a format like Proleague's is foolish. There are a bunch of players far too close in skill for that to happen on a regular basis - Rogue is extremely good, no doubt, but he didn't (at least I don't think so) magically become better since the regular round ended, but many players have produced similar results in one qualifier or another before falling handlessly to someone they dismantled online once they play offline.

What I'm saying is, it'll take more than one qualifier to convince me that Rogue is all-kill material against a team of SKT's calibre.

No player in the entire world is all kill material against SKT.
Hell, if you would made a team of 10 best players in the world besides those on SKT (chosen by whatever criteria you wish), I still probably wouldn't favour them over SKT. That team is too stacked and that has to show in all-kill format. Although, obviously that format is volatile and they CAN lose, they are always coming into any match as favourites.
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
February 06 2014 22:26 GMT
#75
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/

1-2 0-2 to SKT Dark?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 06 2014 22:27 GMT
#76
On February 07 2014 07:26 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/

1-2 0-2 to SKT Dark?


*High-five*
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 06 2014 22:27 GMT
#77
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0

Sure they do!
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SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
February 06 2014 23:45 GMT
#78
On February 06 2014 22:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 22:30 T.O.P. wrote:
Maru has to be sent out last for Jin Air imo. You don't want to give SKT a chance to beat Maru by sending out a Protoss to snipe him.

That's also why I think Soulkey will be sent out if Soo loses. You want to save Parting and Rain for Maru.

But Maru is 5-1 vs Protoss and lost twice to Soulkey in their last matchup. I think you want to save Soulkey for Maru.

Also all of you fools who think Rogue is going to lose to soO are wrong.



Darkhoarse is making the most sense. I get people are up in arms about TvP balance, but the fact is, Maru is wrecking protoss lately and is suffering versus Zerg. I too think soulkey is waiting for Maru, but I also think that is too obvious, and Maru might have something prepared. God I am excited for this!!
Julyzerg ftw
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 06 2014 23:49 GMT
#79
On February 07 2014 07:26 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:03 Greenei wrote:
On February 06 2014 21:14 Zealously wrote:
Well I guess Jin Air didn't want to win 4-0


Do you even results, bro?

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/results/

1-2 0-2 to SKT Dark?


Dark is a God. You don't even know.
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AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 04:48:10
February 07 2014 04:47 GMT
#80
Rogue just won the Asia IEM Katowice qualifier how are people hating on him O.O.. ignant.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
February 07 2014 08:27 GMT
#81
Jin Air is only Maru while SKT is Soulkey Rain Parting along with other good players. SKT ezpz!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
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