EPTUnnerefed Hellbat = Hellbat before nerf to their damage.
Terrans are slauthered badly = just look at the winrates. They are actually even worse than in TvP...
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w3c.TruE
Czech Republic1055 Posts
Unnerefed Hellbat = Hellbat before nerf to their damage. Terrans are slauthered badly = just look at the winrates. They are actually even worse than in TvP... | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
How about an actual fun buff to Terran, like Seeker Missile gets +damage to Massive units? Seems like that would add a nice counter to both things they have problems with (Colo and Archon), and buff Mech. It doesn't solve dieing to Blink all-ins, but it makes it much more punishable once you hold. With that + EMP, you could add Ghost/Raven to any lategame Terran army and be pretty scary to the Protoss deathball. | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
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JonIrenicus
Italy602 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 25 2014 04:06 w3c.TruE wrote: Unnerefed Hellbat = Hellbat before nerf to their damage. Terrans are slauthered badly = just look at the winrates. They are actually even worse than in TvP... What are you smoking lol tvz is fine. | ||
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w3c.TruE
Czech Republic1055 Posts
Coming from the Zerg player... | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
At least it's someone other than Terrans crying for Marines to have +1000 damage per attack. | ||
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il_Cattivo
Turkey54 Posts
On January 25 2014 04:00 Ravomat wrote: When the MSC was conceived it was supposed to help protoss in 3 ways. The first one obviously is defense because sentry based play is fragile and expensive. Then it should help them get some map presence with recall. And lastly impossible to scout anything in any matchup before observers so they made the MSC a flying unit with 14 vision range. 3 more than vipers, medivacs and supposedly all other air units. I didn't check the rest. I don't know what happened to the idea that it's attached to a nexus and can swap between them but my guess is they thought it was a stupid idea. Well they still have hallucinated phoenixes. Is MoCore really needed for scouting purposes? You can still move out on the map with a ground mocore and recall without any problems. So Protoss map presence shouldnt be hurt from this change. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26355 Posts
On January 25 2014 04:43 Crownlol wrote: At least it's someone other than Terrans crying for Marines to have +1000 damage per attack. So far beyond the truth, come on  Terrans I think just don't want every good strat they rely on to receive nerfs, which later come round to fuck them. Widowmines being nerfed is the latest, it was frustratining because Zergs had actually started to figure out how to minimise the splash reliably ANYWAY. Now we have weaker Bio-centric TvZ, the staple since WoL's beta, when they could have waited and seen. There may have been issues, but TvZ has never been broken like TvP has been for a good while. -Revert upgrade costs decreases. Protoss don't even need to build many sentries, unlike in WoL where it was conceived. Upgrades are imo too cheap for the modern era, especially given you can also upgrade faster. -Do things with the MsC that will actually fix the issues with TvP. | ||
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ImperialFist
790 Posts
bio is dying out since there is nothing to anchor it on vs zerg, tanks and mines are not good enough. now T lean on the no skill mech, 70 apm, tanks and turrets, get mass raven and play the most boring game ever. widow mine nerf was completely uncalled for and you know it, you despise that nerf and if it was in your power you would DeNerf the mine and get back to playing the game without going full NA. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26355 Posts
Marine-tank is dead though, so sad  | ||
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ImperialFist
790 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Mech takes a fuckload of skill, maybe not spamming high APM but it's really damn hard to make work. Marine-tank is dead though, so sad fuckload of skill? compared to bio? lol | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Mech takes a fuckload of skill, maybe not spamming high APM but it's really damn hard to make work. Marine-tank is dead though, so sad Marine tank was my favorite playstyle, but I think regenerating mutas kind of snuffed that out hard. Mech is like a protoss army, but with a lot more ways to die and less fail safes. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:14 ImperialFist wrote: fuckload of skill? compared to bio? lol Oh god, now the Terrans are even complaining about other Terrans! | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
Actually from aligulac last month PvT was most equal matchup, TvZ was at 46% and PvZ at 47%. This month also Terran is doing worse againts Z than againts P. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:23 keglu wrote: Actually from aligulac last month PvT was most equal matchup, TvZ was at 46% and PvZ at 47%. This month also Terran is doing worse againts Z than againts P. Both of those numbers are fine, 46/54 and 47/53 are very balanced. | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:24 Crownlol wrote: Both of those numbers are fine, 46/54 and 47/53 are very balanced. Less balanced than 51%. | ||
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ImperialFist
790 Posts
On January 25 2014 05:19 Crownlol wrote: Oh god, now the Terrans are even complaining about other Terrans! Ye Stupid Terrans, all they know is to complain :D | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26355 Posts
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
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