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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
January 13 2014 09:22 GMT
#61
On January 13 2014 10:01 jax1492 wrote:
congrats, but lets be honest they are B team Koreans.

Similarly the Europeans weren't from Premier League, not even from last year's challenger victors.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 13 2014 10:49 GMT
#62
oh my god... i just looked at the thread but not really read the title i thought i just clicked on "Snute Dies" my god lol. I was really scared for a second
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
January 13 2014 10:51 GMT
#63
On January 13 2014 19:49 FFW_Rude wrote:
oh my god... i just looked at the thread but not really read the title i thought i just clicked on "Snute Dies" my god lol. I was really scared for a second

Just wait for the twitch trolls to catch up with that.

Congratz to all qualified!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12704 Posts
January 13 2014 10:59 GMT
#64
On January 13 2014 19:51 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 19:49 FFW_Rude wrote:
oh my god... i just looked at the thread but not really read the title i thought i just clicked on "Snute Dies" my god lol. I was really scared for a second

Just wait for the twitch trolls to catch up with that.

Congratz to all qualified!

god some still has the RIP day9 going on the chat
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 13 2014 11:00 GMT
#65
On January 13 2014 16:15 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 16:08 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On January 13 2014 15:43 herMan wrote:
A lot of the guys killing Koreans were Protoss, maybe it had something to do with it?


Lol never fails for someone to bring in the protoss excuse. Looking at who qualified so far, I'd say Protoss so far has been represented the least. 1 out of the 6 in the ladder wildcard. So nice try.

And everyone just hating on the Koreans who got knocked out just because they are Koreans is pretty shallow. They are players trying to make a living just like everybody else.

But anyways, good luck to the qualifiers hope they do well in challenger, and hope the Koreans stick around who didn't make it and have some better luck next time!


I'm not being intentionally hateful or anything, I just assume that since First and Yoda are overall better players than the Europeans, it is possible that their opponents decided to beat them with cheese and not macro play. Adding that the Koreans played from KR, cheesing could very well have a stronger shot against them.

And in my opinion Protoss has always had the best cheese/all-ins and in at least pvt the current maps favor blink plays a lot.

DieStar beat First in 2 macro games and lost the game where he went for a SCV pull vs. Storm.
Dimaga beat Yoda in macro games.
Mana vs. Patience was a PvP and lag wasnt even an excuse.
Revenge is in Germany, and he couldnt even get top8 EPS.
Socke vs. Tails was PvP aswell.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
January 13 2014 12:00 GMT
#66
Socke... So close...
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 13 2014 12:33 GMT
#67
GO Snute, best of luck, make Kerrigan proud. gl hf gg ♥
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RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
January 13 2014 14:20 GMT
#68
Socke pls ._. I'd like to know how he lost to Diestar.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26734 Posts
January 13 2014 15:53 GMT
#69
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 13 2014 16:07 GMT
#70
first and yoda retirement incoming?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 13 2014 18:58 GMT
#71
On January 14 2014 01:07 sabas123 wrote:
first and yoda retirement incoming?


What pro retires after losing one match?! None worth rooting/going all mushy for.

That being said, I think there is one issue here that might be a bit overlooked and that is that the 200 wins required works two ways, and this is the ingenious part about it. Firstly, the 200 win + wild card qualifier were created as soft lock, limiting the invading hordes going to EU/AM, whoever the hordes may be. So in the first wild card qualifier in WCS EU there were 6 slots for grabs, and interestingly enough, exactly 6 Koreans participated, not 5 not 7, but 6. (Surely someone must pick this obvious conspiracy to take over the EU scene that was thwarted). Now, there has been a bit of discussion about whether or not YoDa et all took these 200 wins requirement seriously or simply tried to cut corners and do it as quickly as possible with cheese and so forth. Time can very well have been a constraint that pushed players to get the 200 wins over and done with asap. Overconfidence might have been another, who can tell?

Secondly, and this might have been overlooked a bit, the 200 wins requirement provides not just a chance for the local heroes to get to know the invading horde's play style and learn a trick or two, but it is also provides an opportunity for the invading horde to get to know the play style of the EU players as well. The thing is, if you want to compete against EU players with lag and all that jazz, sure, practicing in Korea is likely superior, but not knowing the opponents and not knowing/caring what they might be up to is a huge handicap I'd say. With that said, I hope that all those serious about switching to EU become regular on the EU ladder, for their own sake as much as for the EU ladder's sake.

And again, huge congrats to all those that qualified for WCS EU challenger, the 4 qualifiers were all awesome to follow! To those that didn't make it this time, hang in there, get 200+ wins and at least I will look forward to a new round of intense qualifiers for season 2!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
HighArT
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia189 Posts
January 13 2014 22:30 GMT
#72
New updates. Instead of top 6, top 8 players from last EU wildcard qualifier qualify for WCS EU.

So last 2 players are Vega.Revolver and KRN.StrinterN

ESL news: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/news/235726/
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