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On January 04 2014 05:46 Waxangel wrote:
More than a few teams in SC2 have been run fully or partly out of the owner's pocket, Quantic was just a really terrible demonstration of what can happen in a worst case scenario
Correct me if im wrong, but most self-funded teams, or investor based teams in the west never last, or at least lose their ability to consistently be a top team. Examples: Quantic, Clarity and Eclypsia amongst others.
Hope for the best for LYGF for the sake of their players.
What about the Cologne teamhouse? Who will bw staying in it? Will Tassadar remain in WCS AM?
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Estonia4644 Posts
On January 04 2014 08:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:15 fusefuse wrote:
Way to go Olli
misspelling your own nickname in the first instance lol
whats Dard : D
also you guys are just weird, LYGF is a brilliant name
I had 3 different skype chats mocking me with DardLordOlli until someone was kind enough to actually quote it. Goddamnit Wax.
now i feel bad for ruining it by pointing it out for you :c
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I hope this mysterious investor is real. Would hate for them to offer their players a lot of promises without keeping them.
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TLADT24920 Posts
thanks for the interview! As mentioned, seems like they are trying to be transparent so I will await the sponsor announcement!
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On January 04 2014 08:07 Fearest wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 06:21 WhizPower wrote:
It shouldn't matter but if they want to be taken 100% seriously by everyone they kind of need to change the team name. Exactly. Imagine coming to Microsoft and introduce yourself. "Our team name is Love Your Girlfriend... please give us a sponsorship"
"We're Evil Geniuses, we're not actually evil. And we need sponsors."
"We're Incredible Miracles. We aren't actually praying for a miracle. Sponsor us please."
"We're Team Liquid. We need sponsors. No, we aren't a drink company. No, 'liquid' does not refer to our business model. Or staff changeovers. No, it has nothing to do with Porn. Look, it's just a name."
On January 04 2014 08:25 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 05:46 Waxangel wrote:
More than a few teams in SC2 have been run fully or partly out of the owner's pocket, Quantic was just a really terrible demonstration of what can happen in a worst case scenario Correct me if im wrong, but most self-funded teams, or investor based teams in the west never last, or at least lose their ability to consistently be a top team. Examples: Quantic, Clarity and Eclypsia amongst others. Hope for the best for LYGF for the sake of their players. What about the Cologne teamhouse? Who will bw staying in it? Will Tassadar remain in WCS AM?
You're wrong. The same applies to absolutely every team, regardless of their business model. Esports isn't nearly big enough to be stable, no matter how you're getting funding.
The same is also true whether the team is in the East or West. Korea got big bucks a decade ago because Brood War was actually mainstream for awhile - even LoL pales in comparison. Now Korea teams, across all games, are finding out they have to work to get sponsorship deals.
There's also plenty of exceptions. EG is entirely investor/sponsorship driven, and actually a solid business. Liquid is self-funded. Acer is backed by Acer (of course). Axiom is basically paid out of TotalBiscuit's pocket (though he's probably losing money).
(And this is even glossing over the fact that many Pro sport teams, like Hockey and Baseball in North America, are operating at a loss and backed by extremely rich owners who just want to own teams)
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i like how everyone ignored my post and just repeats what i said and get credit for that Q_Q
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its never good when you have a single shadow investor, if they pull out everyone is left out to hang. There have been dozens of these orgs started and the only one to survive is navi and their investor was a great guy and got them sponsors before he left.
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I don't get it, and the fake investor...why?
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and that sponsor is... azubu!
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i hated the team at first but then i thought about it and i think esports needs more goofy names. i like it more than the generic XtremeShot4Kingz E-Multigamingmindsport whatever the hell is trending now.
i mean, we used to have teams like Pirates of Space and Fingerboom. in real life one of the most popular non-MLB baseball teams is the Montgomery Biscuits.
if i had enough money i would've bought fOu, named it the Seoul Biscuits.
On January 04 2014 08:48 skatblast wrote:
and that sponsor is... azubu!
it's quantic.simon
source: my dad works for LYGF
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Investors who don't mind making a loss for quite a while are what the scene needs, just like in professional football. People who make enough money from other ventures to be able to fund a pro-gaming team as a hobby, almost. See: Roman Abramovich, Vincent Tan, Tony Fernandes etc etc.
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On January 04 2014 09:09 Larkin wrote:
Investors who don't mind making a loss for quite a while are what the scene needs, just like in professional football. People who make enough money from other ventures to be able to fund a pro-gaming team as a hobby, almost. See: Roman Abramovich, Vincent Tan, Tony Fernandes etc etc.
I know what I'll do if I ever was lucky enough to hit the jackpot.
Really interested in who the sponsor might be. Every new team is good for the SC2 scene so I welcome it and love the name.
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Wow pretty cool, but on a side note I think the team name is really stupid, they could have done better.
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LoveYourGuyfriend Scarlett  works no?
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have we literally reached the point where an up and coming team announcing that they have a sponsor automatically means that something shady is going on? should they just not make announcements and pretend they don't exist?
as for the team name, anyone talking about "being taken seriously" etc. is basically trying to justify their personal opinion of the team name by acting as if there's some issue with "professionalism." no one has posted an actual reason the name is "bad" or that anyone "shouldn't take them seriously." rabble rabble rabble, it's goofy! we can't have goofiness in esports!
if you just personally think it's dumb, that's fine and you're entitled, but there's no objective metric that says your opinion matters any more than mine or anyone's
On January 04 2014 09:09 Larkin wrote:
Investors who don't mind making a loss for quite a while are what the scene needs, just like in professional football. People who make enough money from other ventures to be able to fund a pro-gaming team as a hobby, almost. See: Roman Abramovich, Vincent Tan, Tony Fernandes etc etc.
pretty sure "investors who don't mind taking a loss for a while" are what any industry needs lol
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To learn more about this mystery team and their intentions, I e-sat down with Pascal Anton, the owner and co-founder of LYGF, and James "FosTA" Foster, LYGF's SC2 Manager.
Rofl dat intro
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On January 04 2014 09:09 Larkin wrote:
Investors who don't mind making a loss for quite a while are what the scene needs, just like in professional football. People who make enough money from other ventures to be able to fund a pro-gaming team as a hobby, almost. See: Roman Abramovich, Vincent Tan, Tony Fernandes etc etc.
Investors who don't mind making a loss for a while and then likely seeing negligible if any profit at all might be a more accurate criteria. I have no idea what company has ever made money off of Sc2 even when it was booming. I doubt anyone is even making much money sponsoring LoL teams yet. Esports just is not profitable in the same way as televised sports.
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On January 04 2014 10:43 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 09:09 Larkin wrote:
Investors who don't mind making a loss for quite a while are what the scene needs, just like in professional football. People who make enough money from other ventures to be able to fund a pro-gaming team as a hobby, almost. See: Roman Abramovich, Vincent Tan, Tony Fernandes etc etc. Investors who don't mind making a loss for a while and then likely seeing negligible if any profit at all might be a more accurate criteria. I have no idea what company has ever made money off of Sc2 even when it was booming. I doubt anyone is even making much money sponsoring LoL teams yet. Esports just is not profitable in the same way as televised sports.
However, I'd assume the sponsorship costs of partially, or fully funding an esports team/organization is a lot lower than that of any televised sport team. Wouldn't that be a draw to smaller, less well known companies to perhaps make a splash in an albeit smaller market without having to spend a shit ton to get your company's name on a jersey or something?
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I'm looking forward to the big drama of dirty and/or missing money in a year's time.
(No, I'm not.)
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Mysterious sponsor (sorry, I mean "investor")
Weird name
"wtf do they do?"
...sounds a bit familiar.
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