EPTAnyways, this isn't a for sure thing, and balance is relatively fine and still being worked on. No point wasting time crying over milk that isn't even spilled, but still in the bottle, sitting fine and waiting to give our bodies delicious nutrition.
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
Anyways, this isn't a for sure thing, and balance is relatively fine and still being worked on. No point wasting time crying over milk that isn't even spilled, but still in the bottle, sitting fine and waiting to give our bodies delicious nutrition. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
Oh well. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:53 Shinta) wrote: Hilarious how the large majority of this thread revolves around balance and doesn't really talk about Kas retiring. Anyways, this isn't a for sure thing, and balance is relatively fine and still being worked on. No point wasting time crying over milk that isn't even spilled, but still in the bottle, sitting fine and waiting to give our bodies delicious nutrition. This is SC2 General 99% of threads either end up being about Kespa, cataclysms, balance discussion, or Mvp | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:53 Shinta) wrote: Hilarious how the large majority of this thread revolves around balance and doesn't really talk about Kas retiring. Anyways, this isn't a for sure thing, and balance is relatively fine and still being worked on. No point wasting time crying over milk that isn't even spilled, but still in the bottle, sitting fine and waiting to give our bodies delicious nutrition. Thats what happens when a prominent foreign Terran decides to throw TL the ultimate bone and retire. A foreign Terran retiring is usually flame bait for a balance discussion, but Kas wanted to raise the bar. So he also threw in a quick whine about balance. I don't know how you can act surprised when Kas probably intended for his own retirement thread to be derailed. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:36 pure.Wasted wrote: Blizzard aren't God, and SC2 isn't chess. It is not only possible, but probable, that numerous aspects of the game are imbalanced. Seeing as how the pros' careers hinge on the game being at the very least balanced, they should absolutely be up front about what they think is wrong with the game. It's Blizzard's job to tell the regular whine from concerns that are legitimate, and then fix the concerns that are legitimate. Blizzard has no way to do that until they get pro input. There should be an application process and it should be open to the public eye. Maybe get 3 pros from each race. Unlikely to happen, but hey, one can dream. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 22 2013 17:02 TRaFFiC wrote: Blizzard has no way to do that until they get pro input. There should be an application process and it should be open to the public eye. Maybe get 3 pros from each race. Unlikely to happen, but hey, one can dream. They get pro input. | ||
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SjPhotoGrapher
181 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:17 NovemberstOrm wrote: First you cite terrans are "hardly succeeding" with nothing to back it up, then you cite it's easy to balance a game, funny. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437836 TvP and TvZ are still imbalanced according to that thread and it is easy to balance a game as long as you have a balance team larger than 2 people. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 22 2013 17:07 SjPhotoGrapher wrote: TvP and TvZ are still imbalanced according to that thread and it is easy to balance a game as long as you have a balance team larger than 2 people. You honestly can't expect 50% exactly every single month even if the games 100% balanced. You know why? Because a balanced game doesn't = every race wins x % of the time. 1 month might be 55% favoring 1 race, not because of balance but because x race players just played better, then the next month could be complete opposite. Now if it was 60% and always at that then obviously there are problems. Just expecting it to be at 50% every month is stupid because balance doesn't mean it will always be 50%. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Getting pro input is a lot different from the pros making the decisions though. Let the pros vote over potential changes. I mean a lot of these changes by blizz seem so random. If it came down to a vote, you really think the oracles would've got that speed buff? ;d | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 22 2013 17:16 TRaFFiC wrote: Getting pro input is a lot different from the pros making the decisions though. Let the pros vote over potential changes. I mean a lot of these changes by blizz seem so random. If it came down to a vote, you really think the oracles would've got that speed buff? ;d can you really count on pro's not to be biased to their own races though? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:55 lichter wrote: This is SC2 General 99% of threads either end up being about Kespa, cataclysms, balance discussion, or Mvp Eh? Why Mvp? | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On December 22 2013 17:20 NovemberstOrm wrote: can you really count on pro's not to be biased to their own races though? That's why you include players from all races. So, for example, if you're voting about a wm nerf, you have terrans, protoss, and zergs voting. Then you publicize the results of the poll to kill any whining. It would be much harder to balance whine if changes were decided in this manner. you don't like x,y,z change? Too bad. You voted for it. xD | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
You were one of the first pros I ever met in real life and you were super nice! Gonna miss you! | ||
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figq
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On December 22 2013 16:55 lichter wrote: This is SC2 General 99% of threads either end up being about Kespa, cataclysms, balance discussion, or Mvp say what? lol. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
leave terran to the koreans | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
Logged in from my vacation spot to agree with nam nam. The game can be balanced around the pro level, but for an below average guy like me, it is not. In BW even if im shit tier, I grit my teeth when I lose, but then I can pick it up and play again, because it felt fun. And when I lost, it was because I had inferior skills. SC2 ceased to be fun in 3 months. I followed BW for 4 years. There is no tension in SC2 matches, in any matchup. At all. No Lurker traps, no intense take downs of Carriers and Goliaths, Nukes feel soft and inferior, no intense air Muta battles, no bated breath of dropship interceptions. Basically, yea, I miss the BW glory days, maybe I'm wishing too much for a game SC2 refuses to emulate. I can respect that, it is following its own path. But it has lost a fan that I was, botching up the ****ing lore so much I cringe as if it was related to common media cesspool that many games are these days. Good luck to Kas in his future endeavours, and honestly, to all the previously retired players I never posted about. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On December 22 2013 08:18 IAmWithStupid wrote: Dramatic "Noooooo!..." On the serious note. I'm not sure if Kas will read this comment... If I get new job in January (chances are 80/20), I can provide 500 euros each month for you keep playing... please, contact me (PM) for more details... This guy has money :D | ||
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