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PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
December 04 2013 18:20 GMT
#121
On December 05 2013 03:07 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 02:55 PanzerElite wrote:
I'm definitely going to use stuff from my current Osu! skin. Mostly collected from [Nightcore HD] <--Best combo bursts evaah! heheehhehe
+ Show Spoiler +

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Can't wait till this goes live.

This is a prime example of what I absolutely don't want to see in my Starcraft...

haha, im gonna make as much cc's as possible every game
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
December 04 2013 18:23 GMT
#122
On December 04 2013 12:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
Classic StarCraft Soundtrack

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Classic StarCraft Soundtrack

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Classic StarCraft Soundtrack

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Classic StarCraft Soundtrack


WOOHOO!!!

More hyped for this than anything else in this patch
Natolumin
Profile Joined July 2011
France72 Posts
December 04 2013 18:23 GMT
#123
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!

did you extract them from the game or did you only take the archive from earlier in the thread and reencode it ?
xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 18:30:32
December 04 2013 18:24 GMT
#124
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!


First of all, thank you for having good intentions. Unfortunately . . . erm, you transcoded from one lossy format to another, (inferior), lossy format. You've made a huge mistake. Here is a visual representation of what that does.
"Expand or die." —Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #45
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 04 2013 18:38 GMT
#125
On December 05 2013 03:07 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 02:55 PanzerElite wrote:
I'm definitely going to use stuff from my current Osu! skin. Mostly collected from [Nightcore HD] <--Best combo bursts evaah! heheehhehe
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

Can't wait till this goes live.

This is a prime example of what I absolutely don't want to see in my Starcraft...

Kill the CC, problem solved.
Also, its not "your Starcraft".
Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
December 04 2013 18:39 GMT
#126
Who actually still cares about sc2?

User was warned for this post
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
December 04 2013 18:47 GMT
#127
On December 05 2013 03:24 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!


First of all, thank you for having good intentions. Unfortunately . . . erm, you transcoded from one lossy format to another, (inferior), lossy format. You've made a huge mistake. Here is a visual representation of what that does.


Uh oh, I have failed once again
CYfiri
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden25 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 19:07:48
December 04 2013 18:52 GMT
#128
On December 05 2013 03:24 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!


First of all, thank you for having good intentions. Unfortunately . . . erm, you transcoded from one lossy format to another, (inferior), lossy format. You've made a huge mistake. Here is a visual representation of what that does.
That is a bit of a harsh comparement. I mean he only re did it once, that video is extreme not to mention the loss in quality is lots and lots less then what you lose by upload to youtube. Are the files originaly in ogg in the game files if so there is no other sorce to go from.
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
December 04 2013 19:03 GMT
#129
I'm mostly excited about the new Soundtrack, although the mods for custom maps is also a really great addition.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
December 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#130
On December 04 2013 18:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
I laughed out loud at this:

[image loading]


I have a strong feeling that the extension mods will have very limited usefulness primarily due to the problem of resource placement and the use of custom resource units, custom grid sizes etc. MavercK mentioned this in another thread, if you load up SC2BW on a current map you won't have the right mineral lines or grid placement. Another example, a mod I am working on right now uses trees that can be mined - if trees are nowhere on the map then you will not get the proper resources. I think these mod extensions could potentially have problems, and at the very best will limited only to "melee mods". Not saying it's a bad idea, just that I don't see how they can possibly implement it for anything more complex than a UI mod or a rebalanced melee mod.
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xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 20:56:37
December 04 2013 20:47 GMT
#131
On December 05 2013 03:52 CYfiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 03:24 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!


First of all, thank you for having good intentions. Unfortunately . . . erm, you transcoded from one lossy format to another, (inferior), lossy format. You've made a huge mistake. Here is a visual representation of what that does.
That is a bit of a harsh comparement. I mean he only re did it once, that video is extreme not to mention the loss in quality is lots and lots less then what you lose by upload to youtube. Are the files originaly in ogg in the game files if so there is no other sorce to go from.


Obviously it's harsh, he used Youtube to transcode 1000 times. But you just don't transcode music, period. Encoding wrecks the quality already. Transcoding is taking something that's wrecked and then wrecking it again.

Edit: I'm sure Blizzard didn't just leave all the tracks in the Starcraft II directory as .ogg files that anybody could copy & paste. The files would have been encrypted and obfuscated within the game data, making them impossible to directly access. The only way to properly copy the music is to let the game play the music and run a program to record the DirectSound buffer and save it as a lossless format file, (preferably flac). Then divide the file into individual tracks. Then, if you want to, the lossless files can be encoded to whichever lossy format you prefer to make them smaller at the cost of quality, (160kbps OGG is one of the best compromises of quality/file size).
"Expand or die." —Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #45
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 04 2013 22:07 GMT
#132
On December 05 2013 03:20 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
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On December 04 2013 17:59 digmouse wrote:
https://www.mediafire.com/?bkz31a3knbvhcz5
Remastered BW music for anyone not patient enough to download the 15GB game.


Someone please explain something to me.

Is the soundtrack only remastered, as in, nothing is different except it's a completely new mastering?

If so, what is the point of downloading highly compressed music files of it - the loss in quality from compression should make it sound the same as the original master. This package is 64MB, that sounds like 160kbps OGG audio files at best. that's the best case scenario and it's good, but i still feel it's quite low considering the purpose of all this is to listen to a cleaner, higher fidelity version.

Remaster is also a new mix. The horns and drums on terran 4 sound way different for example.
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bigmanbigman
Profile Joined December 2013
17 Posts
December 04 2013 22:08 GMT
#133
Speaking of realms... for some reason when I try to play Sc2, I get onto the NA server just fine, but if I try to get onto the Korea server for harder opponents and better practice, I cant log on. It just shows that my internet is not working but it is working just fine because I can go on NA and browse the internet. Any suggestions?
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 23:48:49
December 05 2013 01:41 GMT
#134
Brood War Music Remastered on YouTube: Protoss / Terran / Zerg

Added that to the OP.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 05 2013 02:09 GMT
#135
the classic starcraft soundtrack is making me consider switching to terran
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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 05 2013 02:13 GMT
#136
On December 05 2013 10:41 juicyjames wrote:
Brood War Music Remastered on YouTube: Protoss / Terran / Zerg

Added that to the OP. Also,

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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 05 2013 02:55 GMT
#137
On December 05 2013 05:47 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 03:52 CYfiri wrote:
On December 05 2013 03:24 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
On December 05 2013 03:15 Nightsz wrote:
I converted the the BW music from an OGG format to an mp3 format at 320kbit/s quality for those who are too lazy.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykwdgu

Everyone rejoice!


First of all, thank you for having good intentions. Unfortunately . . . erm, you transcoded from one lossy format to another, (inferior), lossy format. You've made a huge mistake. Here is a visual representation of what that does.
That is a bit of a harsh comparement. I mean he only re did it once, that video is extreme not to mention the loss in quality is lots and lots less then what you lose by upload to youtube. Are the files originaly in ogg in the game files if so there is no other sorce to go from.


Obviously it's harsh, he used Youtube to transcode 1000 times. But you just don't transcode music, period. Encoding wrecks the quality already. Transcoding is taking something that's wrecked and then wrecking it again.

Edit: I'm sure Blizzard didn't just leave all the tracks in the Starcraft II directory as .ogg files that anybody could copy & paste. The files would have been encrypted and obfuscated within the game data, making them impossible to directly access. The only way to properly copy the music is to let the game play the music and run a program to record the DirectSound buffer and save it as a lossless format file, (preferably flac). Then divide the file into individual tracks. Then, if you want to, the lossless files can be encoded to whichever lossy format you prefer to make them smaller at the cost of quality, (160kbps OGG is one of the best compromises of quality/file size).

As far as I know there is no such encryption process regarding the resource files of SC2, all music, sound and texture files are just there for you to extract.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
December 05 2013 03:25 GMT
#138
Can't wait for Tournaments to use the BW Music!!!!

On a similar note, I hate it when foreign Tournaments forget the music. Kills the mood.
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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
December 05 2013 04:40 GMT
#139
On December 05 2013 04:46 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 18:11 Ghanburighan wrote:
I laughed out loud at this:

[image loading]


I have a strong feeling that the extension mods will have very limited usefulness primarily due to the problem of resource placement and the use of custom resource units, custom grid sizes etc. MavercK mentioned this in another thread, if you load up SC2BW on a current map you won't have the right mineral lines or grid placement. Another example, a mod I am working on right now uses trees that can be mined - if trees are nowhere on the map then you will not get the proper resources. I think these mod extensions could potentially have problems, and at the very best will limited only to "melee mods". Not saying it's a bad idea, just that I don't see how they can possibly implement it for anything more complex than a UI mod or a rebalanced melee mod.


I think i can solve this however by using triggers to evaluate the spawn location and move them before player units/structures are created. I'll need to remove the second gas extractor as well using this method. It should all be fine. I'm pretty happy with the extension system. It's one of the best features they've implemented since Launch.
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 05:31:52
December 05 2013 05:31 GMT
#140
This is quite a pathetic effort from Blizzard. It's not that these changes are bad. In fact, most people agree they are positive changes. But they simply don't matter. These are minor, insignificant and trivial features.

However, this is also what they showed off at Blizzcon--their big guns. No other announcements were made. So clearly, Blizzard is running out of ideas, no in-game streaming, no tournament support, no ladder improvements, and their priorities are all wrong.

To sum up Blizzard's weak and uninspiring patch:
The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it.
-Michelangelo
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