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Finganforn
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden77 Posts
November 30 2013 11:56 GMT
#121
He hasn't switched race yet, he's just gonna do an experiment to see if it works better for him.

Doesn't seem like a sustainable strategy to me, just race-changing to whichever race seems overpowered at the moment. I hope he was at least half joking, in an elaborate way of saying "protoss OP plz nerf >.< "
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
November 30 2013 12:53 GMT
#122
Haha. The passive aggressiveness in this thread is hilarious
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 30 2013 13:06 GMT
#123
On November 30 2013 06:26 istandwithmitt wrote:
Are you fucking kidding me? You abandon Terran race for Protoss.... Human Garbage...

User was warned for this post


only a warning? tl gone soft these days, a lot of insulting going unanswered
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
November 30 2013 13:07 GMT
#124
haha good Job Sjow!
realityyy
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany50 Posts
November 30 2013 13:10 GMT
#125
Kinda funny regarding he stated "playing Terran feels f** great after winning against Life on Dreamhack(?).
Mines nerfed, switching to Toss. While you face a ton of Protosses on Master Ladder which honestly dont really have the skill of a Master League player. But well, not complaining about balance or something...
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 13:15:15
November 30 2013 13:13 GMT
#126
Well, since some people think protoss is easy, his case will be a real example whether that is true or not. I'm only interested in seeing his PvZ, probably PvP too. He already has an advantage at PvT by having been terran before.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 30 2013 13:52 GMT
#127
On November 30 2013 22:10 realityyy wrote:
Mines nerfed, switching to Toss. While you face a ton of Protosses on Master Ladder which honestly dont really have the skill of a Master League player.



On November 30 2013 22:10 realityyy wrote:
But well, not complaining about balance or something...


Suttle
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 30 2013 13:54 GMT
#128
If you can't beat them, join them GL Sjow, but I hope to see you as Terran again
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 30 2013 13:59 GMT
#129
On November 30 2013 19:23 hunspirit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 18:23 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
he will hate his life
do you know why?
pvp...

Yeah protoss players hate pvp, cause they dont have the natural advantage like vs the other races. As a spectator the pvp is looking good now. Im sure that is much better than was it in the WoL.


People are hilarious in here )))
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 30 2013 14:07 GMT
#130
On November 30 2013 22:59 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:23 hunspirit wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:23 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
he will hate his life
do you know why?
pvp...

Yeah protoss players hate pvp, cause they dont have the natural advantage like vs the other races. As a spectator the pvp is looking good now. Im sure that is much better than was it in the WoL.


People are hilarious in here )))

This thread has turned into a goldmine of amazing balance whines and quotes. I find to be quite enjoyable.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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aldochillbro
Profile Joined July 2012
187 Posts
November 30 2013 14:12 GMT
#131
On November 30 2013 19:33 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:27 Teoita wrote:
As far as playing, it's goddamn annoying to play PvP. Tons of BO losses; HotS didn't change much in that regard.

Don't play so greedy and scout, easy.

There is no catch all build. If you play "safe" then you'll get build order countered by a greedy player.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
November 30 2013 14:12 GMT
#132
Yet another Terran foreign hope lost.... it is a dark day on the Terran front.

( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
November 30 2013 14:18 GMT
#133
Good for him, now he can have a fulltime job and still be considered a SC2 pro, if he's clever enough.
oo
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 15:05:45
November 30 2013 14:23 GMT
#134
On November 30 2013 23:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 22:59 Doublemint wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:23 hunspirit wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:23 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
he will hate his life
do you know why?
pvp...

Yeah protoss players hate pvp, cause they dont have the natural advantage like vs the other races. As a spectator the pvp is looking good now. Im sure that is much better than was it in the WoL.


People are hilarious in here )))

This thread has turned into a goldmine of amazing balance whines and quotes. I find to be quite enjoyable.


I thought it was common knowledge that protoss is better in PvT on the "lower" levels of play, which is the level of play at least 90% of the non-Korean competition takes place. Though at the same time I see the very best terran players run over their protoss competitors in games where I cannot even point out a single mistake by the protoss (though that might be because of my limited game knowledge).

This is the problem of having such diverse races in a game, whose competitive scene shows such a broad range of skill. Imo, the correct response is to just deal with it.
suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
November 30 2013 14:35 GMT
#135
Agreed, funny how this thread turned out :D
Information is everything
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
November 30 2013 15:43 GMT
#136
The small elite group of +60 apm protosses is growing.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 30 2013 16:04 GMT
#137
On November 30 2013 19:27 Teoita wrote:
As far as playing, it's goddamn annoying to play PvP. Tons of BO losses; HotS didn't change much in that regard.


Strange we have people who seem to be able to sustain high winrate in pvp...
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 16:15:40
November 30 2013 16:14 GMT
#138
Every mirror matchup has "build order wins". Being "build order countered" does not mean you instantly lose. I suspect the reason why most Ps don't like PvP is because most Ps don't like to initiate the action, they would rather sit back and fight with their 200/200 deathball army. Since both players are P, you now have both players sitting back and waiting until their 200/200 deathball armies before an attack.

Yes I realize there is a lot of action going on in the first 8 mins of a PvP, but if no one has died before then they won't be dying for a while.
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 16:28:57
November 30 2013 16:28 GMT
#139
On December 01 2013 01:14 KingofGods wrote:
Every mirror matchup has "build order wins". Being "build order countered" does not mean you instantly lose. I suspect the reason why most Ps don't like PvP is because most Ps don't like to initiate the action, they would rather sit back and fight with their 200/200 deathball army. Since both players are P, you now have both players sitting back and waiting until their 200/200 deathball armies before an attack.

Yes I realize there is a lot of action going on in the first 8 mins of a PvP, but if no one has died before then they won't be dying for a while.



that doesn't even make any sense: if what you said'd be true, then the tosses you describe would love PvP since they could just try to play save to the 8 min mark and then sit back and build the 200/200 army they are so in love with.
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KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
November 30 2013 16:32 GMT
#140
On December 01 2013 01:28 tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 01:14 KingofGods wrote:
Every mirror matchup has "build order wins". Being "build order countered" does not mean you instantly lose. I suspect the reason why most Ps don't like PvP is because most Ps don't like to initiate the action, they would rather sit back and fight with their 200/200 deathball army. Since both players are P, you now have both players sitting back and waiting until their 200/200 deathball armies before an attack.

Yes I realize there is a lot of action going on in the first 8 mins of a PvP, but if no one has died before then they won't be dying for a while.



that doesn't even make any sense: if what you said'd be true, then the tosses you describe would love PvP since they could just try to play save to the 8 min mark and then sit back and build the 200/200 army they are so in love with.


Except they don't want to play against another PROTOSS 200/200 army.

Playing against a 200/200 bio army or a 200/200 roach army is very much different from playing against a 200/200 protoss army.
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