EPTOn November 12 2013 10:48 Porishan wrote:
2.8 instead of 2.7? wtf
2.8 instead of 2.7? wtf
No doubt this was decided using a very serious—even scientific—method.
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
No doubt this was decided using a very serious—even scientific—method. | ||
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larse
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Too strong. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:39 awesomoecalypse wrote: Don't run after them until you've researched stim, gotten a turret, or gotten a viking out. This is the exact same shit people were saying when Prisms were buffed to actually have decent speed. "But what will we do now that our vikings and/or marines can't effortlessly chase down and kill prisms?" Build static d, build vikings, or build a decent little squad of units and leave them at home. its not rocket science, and its far from impossible to overcome. Lol I remember all the bitching about the WP buffs back then. So much shortsighted theorycrafting about how they'd completely break PvT... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:50 TheDwf wrote: No doubt this was decided using a very serious—even scientific—method. There was a touranment with pros and everything. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:52 Plansix wrote: There was a touranment with pros and everything. Yes, I am sure the two games between Strelok and Ret (for instance) were highly conclusive regarding this 0.1 change in attack speed to reach the golden number. | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:51 HolyArrow wrote: Lol I remember all the bitching about the WP buffs back then. So much shortsighted theorycrafting about how they'd completely break PvT... bullshit. I remember the polls back then it had like 70% approval. As a terran I didnt complain once about that buff, I thought it was a good idea. | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:52 Plansix wrote: There was a touranment with pros and everything. just to give you a hint of what the real world looks like. The 3% deficit in the maastricht treaty for the EU was decided 30min before the negociation started on this point between people who were politicians and definitely not economists. Most figures that are throwing around (like buff X% or X% growth needed...) have 0 scientifical basis. and a tournament with bad foreigners doesn't mean anything, beta or not. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Marines, Turrets AND viking at 3:30 So we have to open with 111, which is useless, and before we can even confirm it's a stargate, with scouting, it's already too late. What? Jesus, no. Do you even play this game? 5 marines with no upgrades is enough to zone out the oracle. 5. That's all you need to survive the initial harass and completely zone out or kill the Oracle, and it is 100% doable while playing standard and without hopelessly compromising your build. That is true currently, and it will be no less true post patch when proxy Oracles hits like 10 seconds faster. From there, you have 5 options that will make you safe enough to move out. Get a turret. Get a bunch more marines. Tech to stim. Get a viking. Or get a Widow mine or two. You don't need to do all of those things and go for 111. Hell, you don't even need to do most of those things. All you need to do is one of those things. That is not some vicious stranglehold that will stifle Terran gameplay and railroad them into a single techpath. Its just routine map control and pressure. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:57 sAsImre wrote: just to give you a hint of what the real world looks like. The 3% deficit in the maastricht treaty for the EU was decided 30min before the negociation started on this point between people who were politicians and definitely not economists. Most figures that are throwing around (like buff X% or X% growth needed...) have 0 scientifical basis. and a tournament with bad foreigners doesn't mean anything, beta or not. What does that have to do with the price of tea in china? | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:00 awesomoecalypse wrote: What? Jesus, no. Do you even play this game? 5 marines with no upgrades is enough to zone out the oracle. 5. That's all you need to survive the initial harass and completely zone out or kill the Oracle, and it is 100% doable while playing standard and without hopelessly compromising your build. That is true currently, and it will be no less true post patch when proxy Oracles hits like 10 seconds faster. From there, you have 5 options that will make you safe enough to move out. Get a turret. Get a bunch more marines. Tech to stim. Get a viking. Or get a Widow mine or two. You don't need to do all of those things and go for 111. Hell, you don't even need to do most of those things. All you need to do is one of those things. That is not some vicious stranglehold that will stifle Terran gameplay and railroad them into a single techpath. Its just routine map control and pressure. The number of marines needed is 6. Also you are clearly not in tune with high level Terran strategy | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:01 Plansix wrote: What does that have to do with the price of tea in china? Why are you acting like you don't understand his point? | ||
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Meepman
Canada610 Posts
On November 12 2013 10:57 Meerel wrote: that tank buff man....you better sleep one more night over that david...maybe 2.9 is better Woah man, calm down. Let's not get insane here. 2.9 would be inconsequential! How about 2.86?? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:01 Plansix wrote: What does that have to do with the price of tea in china? you're such a troll. 2.8 or 2.7 or even 2.5. The tournament you mentionned has nothing to do. There is 0 basis to a random tank buff that adds 1shot per minute. Just throwing shit at players and praying their happy with it. Or giving an argument to plansix so he can preach the holy bkimbrowder bible. User was warned for this post | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
•THUMBS UP - Revelation change seems pretty decent, don't know why it wasn't that way before honestly. •NEUTRAL - I'm mixed on the armory upgrade change, it seems pretty damn powerful tbh, but I guess we'll see. •THUMBS UP - The Siege Tank change is wonderful (about time they buffed tanks for god's sake). •NEUTRAL - Not the biggest fan of the WM change, but I definitely don't mind it all that much either. •THUMBS UP - Really like the Roach change, think it could lead to some exciting new strategies. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:03 TheDwf wrote: Why are you acting like you don't understand his point? because he at least read schaupenhauer (or knows without reading him, it's quite intuitive) and knows that when you run out of argument you make up a parallel that doesn't bring anything but distract the public from the original point. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 12 2013 11:03 TheDwf wrote: Why are you acting like you don't understand his point? Because it was a shit post and called a bunch of pros bad just so he could bitch about balance, why else? | ||
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