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Koreans try out their English at WCS Season Finals - Page 4

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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 29 2013 14:31 GMT
#61
I don't recall ever exceeding 20 hours of classes in university. My MBA program was only 8 hours a week. More than 20 hours of lecture sounds like an extension of high school.
btp
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada6 Posts
October 29 2013 14:35 GMT
#62
i bugged hero while he smoked and shared a couple words with him, his english is very good!
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
October 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#63
Maybe Polt, being master of the Terran race, has an endless supply of Stimpacks to help him with such little sleep
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
October 29 2013 14:45 GMT
#64
On October 29 2013 16:14 Waxangel wrote:
More videos to come!


When will more videos come? Almost everyone that follows the SC2 scene knows HerO and Polt have great English... The other Koreans (other than MC and Jaedong) still need to prove themselves. D:
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 15:02:54
October 29 2013 14:55 GMT
#65
On October 29 2013 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 16:54 Oriatis wrote:
Awesome interviews! Thanks for your effort!
The Polt interview somehow gets you motivated: just because you start working doesn't mean that you have to give
up your dreams!
hwaitiiing!


Well you do have to give up your sleep apparently, which reasonable people don't want to do.


It may also have a bad effect on your health in the long run.

On October 29 2013 23:26 ggofthejungle wrote:
Wait, let me get this straight. He takes 18hrs of English every week? He only studies English, that's it? No other subject? Not to take anything from polt, but having just one subject to study (even 18hrs) is not that hard, and that's why he says so. It's a foreign language, not rocket science, you know?


True but we don't know if he has a lot of vocabulary and essays to write. E.g. when I was in a language intensive high school, the 1st year was rough. We often had 50-100 words per day or every other day. This and dictation are terrible if you're not consistent. Studying grammar was also a requirement.
GZSwanson
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada25 Posts
October 29 2013 14:58 GMT
#66
wax is a boss - pleasure to meet you this weekend (monk too ^_^)
Generally always 90% of the time DTs are a good idea
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
October 29 2013 15:03 GMT
#67
wow hero actually has really good english
NaNiwa <3
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 29 2013 15:11 GMT
#68
18 hours a week?? Man I would kill for university like that I do 29 -_/
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
October 29 2013 15:13 GMT
#69
I still find it pretty weird that youngsters in a country which is pretty open to globalisation still struggle so much with English. It used to be that you'd go to Spain, Portugal, France or Italy, and no one would speak to you in English, but nowadays most young people do (people over 30/35 in continental Europe still often don't speak English from my experience). Most pro-gamers from Europe and SEA have a very good command of English except for a few Russians though they can still speak it well. Don't Koreans learn English in school, do they just learn Korean, or do they perhaps learn a different language?
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 29 2013 15:13 GMT
#70
It's great to see this. I really hope more Koreans follow it's so good.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 29 2013 15:16 GMT
#71
On October 30 2013 00:13 mikkmagro wrote:
I still find it pretty weird that youngsters in a country which is pretty open to globalisation still struggle so much with English. It used to be that you'd go to Spain, Portugal, France or Italy, and no one would speak to you in English, but nowadays most young people do (people over 30/35 in continental Europe still often don't speak English from my experience). Most pro-gamers from Europe and SEA have a very good command of English except for a few Russians though they can still speak it well. Don't Koreans learn English in school, do they just learn Korean, or do they perhaps learn a different language?

Well for one a progamer from any country outside of Korea has to speak English to practice with his peers. I used to chat in English 100% of the time when I was practicing. Compare this to the Koreans who have to speak Korean to get the best practice. Huge difference right there.
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
October 29 2013 15:26 GMT
#72
On October 30 2013 00:16 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:13 mikkmagro wrote:
I still find it pretty weird that youngsters in a country which is pretty open to globalisation still struggle so much with English. It used to be that you'd go to Spain, Portugal, France or Italy, and no one would speak to you in English, but nowadays most young people do (people over 30/35 in continental Europe still often don't speak English from my experience). Most pro-gamers from Europe and SEA have a very good command of English except for a few Russians though they can still speak it well. Don't Koreans learn English in school, do they just learn Korean, or do they perhaps learn a different language?

Well for one a progamer from any country outside of Korea has to speak English to practice with his peers. I used to chat in English 100% of the time when I was practicing. Compare this to the Koreans who have to speak Korean to get the best practice. Huge difference right there.

True, but I think school and other media play a bigger role in learning a language. I remember someone saying that for example the reason why Germany was slow in having English being widely spoken was because every movie, tv series, and book which would be a major international release, would be translated or dubbed in German. Being exposed to any language from a young age is vital in order to become fluent in the language.

ToD also did not speak English in his early WC3 days if I recall correctly, and nowadays, he's one of the very best English casters.

Hopefully more people follow MC's example.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Tru_m4n
Profile Joined September 2009
162 Posts
October 29 2013 15:28 GMT
#73
Maybe it's just me but I think it gives a bit of a bad impression when the inverviewer talks really fast or use uncommon words that may be difficult for the koreans (and others too) to understand. I've seen this a lot when I lived in Taiwan, many native english-speakers doesn't seem to care if the person they're talking to understands them or not. Personally I try to adjust my english to the same level of the person I'm talking to, so I use a more simple language when I talk to people whose english is not that good. Not saying that the interviews should be in baby language, but it would look better if they were a bit slow-paced and relaxed imo. No offense meant to wax or polt/hero, just my 2 cents.

Still, interesting interviews. Polt is a boss for studying and being this good at SC2 at the same time... I can't even do one of those things
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Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
October 29 2013 15:29 GMT
#74
wow hero can use the past tense i'm impressed! he could do interviews in english
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
October 29 2013 15:48 GMT
#75
Man, those guys are champs. Speaking in your non-native language is hard enough, but doing it on the spot in front of a camera is insane. I've taken a lot of foreign language classes, and even when I'd feel relatively confident with the material, half of my vocabulary and grammar would fly out of my head the second I was put on the spot for an oral exam or presentation. So impressed with both Polt and Hero.

Also, I'm pretty surprised at the people saying that 18 hours isn't a lot of coursework. That was similar to what I did at my university, and even though I was only in lectures for 18 hours a week, I was still up until the early morning pretty much every day writing papers, doing research, and studying for quizzes/exams. 18 hours of class isn't the same as, say, working a part time job for 18 hours at the grocery store--you're not done and free once you get home. Sure it's possible to have a larger course load, but in my experience, that was definitely enough to fill my entire day with work.

slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 29 2013 16:04 GMT
#76
Lol what, I feel like such a terrible student reading these posts. Here at UT Austin you're not even allowed to take more than 17 credit hours/week without applying for approval (http://www.utexas.edu/cola/student-affairs/policies-and-procedures.php#MAXHOURS)...15 hours is considered the average.

Thanks for the interviews! Polt and HerO are so good and so handsome.
jjakji fan
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
October 29 2013 16:07 GMT
#77
I would love to see an English Speaking Tourney for KR pro-gamers. It would be hilarious, but a little bit degrading at the same time.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 29 2013 16:23 GMT
#78
On October 30 2013 00:13 mikkmagro wrote:
I still find it pretty weird that youngsters in a country which is pretty open to globalisation still struggle so much with English. It used to be that you'd go to Spain, Portugal, France or Italy, and no one would speak to you in English, but nowadays most young people do (people over 30/35 in continental Europe still often don't speak English from my experience). Most pro-gamers from Europe and SEA have a very good command of English except for a few Russians though they can still speak it well. Don't Koreans learn English in school, do they just learn Korean, or do they perhaps learn a different language?



English is a compulsory subject in korea and we start learning english at an elementary school. A lot of parents send their children to this "english kindergarten" to get them to be used to english from an early age. We also watch shit tons of american movies because its on TV all day every day. I think europeans in general learn english much faster than asians because of grammatical similaritie;just like how koreans excel in japanese,
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 16:36:55
October 29 2013 16:29 GMT
#79
I find that Koreans are generally better at English than they let on (which is not to say that they are all good), but are really shy about speaking it because they get embarassed about it. HerO in particular has had this level of English for a while, but he just doesn't want to use it in a public setting.

It's a totally different attitude from European pros who don't seem to give a fuck about what other people think about their English. I don't know the reason for this, but the culture surrounding English is pretty different in Korea - people are really self-conscious about not being fluent and it's common to mock people for having bad pronounciation. Videos like the Jaedong "I LOVE YOU AMERICA!" clip get brought up as cringe videos in Korea, which is a complete opposite attitude of the foreign community. I think since Korean players end up reading Korean community sites more, they see those kind of responses and get even more embarassed about using English. Only a few guys like MC (whose technical skill at English is actually not as good as some others, but has way more CONFIDENCE) have figured out that they shouldn't really care about what the Korean community thinks about their English.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
October 29 2013 16:34 GMT
#80
I'm impressed with Polt's mentality but how long will it actually last before he's burned out. Hope he will get his rest after blizzcon and focus only on school while SC2 takes a break for 2014.
RuhRoh is my herO
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