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Koreans try out their English at WCS Season Finals - Page 7

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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
October 30 2013 00:55 GMT
#121
On October 29 2013 19:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 19:08 Coolhwip wrote:
is 18 hours a week full time? In sweden 40 hours is full time :/


You don't have 40 hours of lectures a week though, do you?



None this week due to exams, but I have 15*2 = 30 hours next week
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
October 30 2013 01:19 GMT
#122
On October 30 2013 00:13 mikkmagro wrote:
I still find it pretty weird that youngsters in a country which is pretty open to globalisation still struggle so much with English. It used to be that you'd go to Spain, Portugal, France or Italy, and no one would speak to you in English, but nowadays most young people do (people over 30/35 in continental Europe still often don't speak English from my experience). Most pro-gamers from Europe and SEA have a very good command of English except for a few Russians though they can still speak it well. Don't Koreans learn English in school, do they just learn Korean, or do they perhaps learn a different language?

Im half german and most of my cousins dont speak english. They didnt go to university though but are in trades like one is a mason one drives a big truck. Ones that went to university do. Just depends I think on education track.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
October 30 2013 01:25 GMT
#123
On October 30 2013 01:59 True_Spike wrote:
18 hours a week is considered "full time" all across America? Being a student there must rock. I don't mean to be condescending, it just seems very weird that nobody takes things like this into consideration when comparing our educational system with yours (in my country, that is). Depending on your field and year (workload tends to differ from one year to the next) it's not uncommon to have to do upwards 25-30 hours a week here (students don't get a say in this) - and in most cases that's just a waste of time, I feel.

actually 12 hours is considered full time to get all student loans and grants. We used to have higher standards but we keep lowering them.Like when my dad went 15 was full time. When his dad went 21 was.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
October 30 2013 01:50 GMT
#124
I don't know if this has been pointed out but 18 credits doesn't necessarily equal 18 hours for most. For example science classes tend to have 3 1 hour lectures + a 3 hour lab while only being worth 4 credits. Some language classes I took were like that as well. For first semester Japanese I had 3 1 hour lectures and then there was a required 2 days a week you would go to a smaller group with a tutor for 1.5 hours. 6 hours total for 4 credits.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 01:56:37
October 30 2013 01:53 GMT
#125
I was accounting major only had one or two labs as a freshmen. 18 hours was 18 hours. Never did homework never bought books. In general school was just partying and cakewalk I dont think is replicated abroad.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 30 2013 02:05 GMT
#126
I'm at a Canadian university and we have about 12~20-ish hours of class a week but then there is lab time, tutorial time, and time for brutal homework assignments that's not counted. The 18 hours is probably just lectures.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46546 Posts
October 30 2013 03:06 GMT
#127
Still have Polt >> MC > Hero, but glad to see Hero is practicing ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46546 Posts
October 30 2013 03:23 GMT
#128
On October 30 2013 10:25 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 01:59 True_Spike wrote:
18 hours a week is considered "full time" all across America? Being a student there must rock. I don't mean to be condescending, it just seems very weird that nobody takes things like this into consideration when comparing our educational system with yours (in my country, that is). Depending on your field and year (workload tends to differ from one year to the next) it's not uncommon to have to do upwards 25-30 hours a week here (students don't get a say in this) - and in most cases that's just a waste of time, I feel.

actually 12 hours is considered full time to get all student loans and grants. We used to have higher standards but we keep lowering them.Like when my dad went 15 was full time. When his dad went 21 was.


12 credits is considered full time for most undergraduate loans, but that doesn't equate to 12 hours of working on school work... just (usually) 12 hours of sitting in weekly lectures.

Generally, for every 1 credit that your class is worth, you're *supposed* to be assigned 2-4 additional hours of related outside work per week. So for a 3 credit class, you should be doing an additional 6-12 hours of coursework outside of your lecture. Adding these 6-12 hours to the original 3 hours of weekly lectures gives you 9-15 hours per week spent on a single course. If you're a full time student taking 4 courses, then 9-15 quadruples to give you roughly 36-60 hours spent per week (including both lecture time and outside work, like homework and studying).

Obviously, some professors and majors will force you to commit far more or far less time than expected, but it's supposed to be set up so that a full-time student works about as much, per week, as an employee at a full-time job.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
October 30 2013 07:33 GMT
#129
No MC?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 07:58:10
October 30 2013 07:57 GMT
#130
Something about Hero's english makes it seem more "natural" than Polt's to me, not sure why. Maybe it's Polt's accent. I could totally see Hero being very fluent with a bit more experience and confidence. Both are awesome, though.

Gravesong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States96 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 09:30:53
October 30 2013 09:30 GMT
#131
On October 30 2013 16:57 AxionSteel wrote:
Something about Hero's english makes it seem more "natural" than Polt's to me, not sure why. Maybe it's Polt's accent. I could totally see Hero being very fluent with a bit more experience and confidence. Both are awesome, though.



Hero seems to be very thoughtful when considering structure as well as verb tense. It seems he'd rather not say anything than say it incorrectly. Regardless, I'm pretty impressed with both of their English skills. And geez, Polt makes me feel like I just need to go and be productive somehow.

Thanks for these!
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
October 30 2013 10:24 GMT
#132
So, where's the other interviews?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 13:28 GMT
#133
On October 30 2013 18:30 Gravesong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 16:57 AxionSteel wrote:
Something about Hero's english makes it seem more "natural" than Polt's to me, not sure why. Maybe it's Polt's accent. I could totally see Hero being very fluent with a bit more experience and confidence. Both are awesome, though.



Hero seems to be very thoughtful when considering structure as well as verb tense. It seems he'd rather not say anything than say it incorrectly. Regardless, I'm pretty impressed with both of their English skills. And geez, Polt makes me feel like I just need to go and be productive somehow.

Thanks for these!

Yeah pretty sure HerO doesn't have as much English confidence as he should. And he's embarrassed about the thought of saying something wrong haha.

Polt just doesn't give a fuck! Loved both interviews.
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forsteri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
October 30 2013 14:59 GMT
#134
Awesome videos, Waxangel. Thank you.
Hero, your English is so good! Us fans really enjoy when you speak it. Keep up the good work.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
October 30 2013 19:59 GMT
#135
Polt number one in English by far... In an old interview with Artosis, Polt stated it was his dream to become a Bonjwa in SC2.. I guess he never thought he would become an English Bonjwa.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:59:22
October 30 2013 20:54 GMT
#136
On October 30 2013 10:53 tdt wrote:
I was accounting major only had one or two labs as a freshmen. 18 hours was 18 hours. Never did homework never bought books. In general school was just partying and cakewalk I dont think is replicated abroad.


Obviously depends on the university and your major. In the US especially, there is a huge range in quality of education from secondary institutions. A uni like Cornell is notorious for being a place where engineering majors are left to die. I knew of guys who were extremely bright in highschool (national merit finalists, international math olympiad members, etc.) who only took the standard courseload (16 hours a week), but had to basically pull all-nighters in the library every other day and still barely managed to graduate with over a 3.0 GPA. This basically translated to over 100 hours a week of studying for some of the smartest people I know, and still not being able to ace the classes. Of course, a 3.0 in the engineering school at Cornell is like a 4.0 everywhere else.

Polt goes to the Uni of Texas at Austin, which is quite a solid and well-known school.
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1264 Posts
October 30 2013 22:36 GMT
#137
On October 29 2013 16:52 GTR wrote:


dat improvement


Those shorts.
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Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
October 30 2013 22:36 GMT
#138
Not too bad but Select and and to an extent Violet when he was living in Texas are still the top 2 Koreans when it comes to English speaking skills
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 22:39 GMT
#139
On October 31 2013 07:36 Fliparoni wrote:
Not too bad but Select and and to an extent Violet when he was living in Texas are still the top 2 Koreans when it comes to English speaking skills

Yeah but SeleCT and Violet both lived in the US for a loooooonnnnnnngggggggg time.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 30 2013 22:39 GMT
#140
BTW by "More videos to come" did you mean the other interviews you posted, or more Korean players doing English interviews?
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